WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu: (Michael Caine) If 1200 men couldn't hold a defensive position this morning, what chance have we with 100?
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» W.Brandes 90th Light Infantry
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyYesterday at 9:41 am by rai

» Gunner T.Stoker 7th Brigade
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun May 09, 2021 6:35 pm by gardner1879

» Officers at Ulundi
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun May 09, 2021 6:54 am by Frank Allewell

» Possible Zulu war medal holder and family.
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySat May 08, 2021 12:14 am by WeekendWarrior

» Orderly Room Sergeant role
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun May 02, 2021 7:17 pm by jancodk

» Melvill's Revolver Cylinder
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySat May 01, 2021 6:58 pm by Julian Whybra

» Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySat May 01, 2021 6:15 pm by Visitor

» The Passing of Her Majesty Queen Mantfombi Dlamini Zulu.
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyFri Apr 30, 2021 9:37 am by ADMIN

» Ian Knight Questions and answers
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Apr 29, 2021 11:51 pm by aussie inkosi

» Sir Henry Bartle Frere letter to Sir Henry Ponsonby
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Apr 29, 2021 6:39 pm by gardner1879

» Boy 1st Class Thomas Harris
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Apr 25, 2021 6:19 pm by RickB

» Gabangaye - was he ubidied?
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyFri Apr 23, 2021 2:43 pm by Julian Whybra

» List of identified bodies at Isandlwana
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Apr 22, 2021 8:26 pm by Frank Allewell

» 1595 Pte. E. Jones 2/24th
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Apr 22, 2021 10:40 am by RickB

» New British Muzleloaders videos on Isandlwana
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyWed Apr 21, 2021 3:33 pm by Frank Allewell

» Library destroyed
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyTue Apr 20, 2021 5:42 am by barry

» Zulu War Medal
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySat Apr 17, 2021 4:38 pm by Bill8183

» sergeant G J Brown
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySat Apr 17, 2021 12:10 pm by 90th

» Captain HUGH O'DONNELL.
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyFri Apr 16, 2021 7:32 pm by WeekendWarrior

» Great Grandfather James (Jimmy) Robinson DCM
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyFri Apr 16, 2021 3:54 pm by Kenny

» In Affectionate Remembrance of P.C. Stephens
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyFri Apr 16, 2021 1:36 pm by gardner1879

» Trpr. Simpson's medal
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Apr 08, 2021 5:13 pm by Julian Whybra

» Someone maybe able to help. 2235 Pte A F Edmonds J7th DCOLrg
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Apr 08, 2021 3:30 am by 90th

» Medal ribbon on Patrol Jacket
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Apr 04, 2021 9:47 pm by John Young

» One of the lesser-known stories. It took place around the same time as Isandlwana.
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Apr 04, 2021 9:54 am by Julian Whybra

» Isandlwana Survivor photo's
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySat Apr 03, 2021 7:06 pm by ADMIN

» <Pte. W. Dunne 2nd Btn 3rd (East Kent) Regiment ('The Buffs') & Sgt. O. Hydenburg (Aydenburg) Natal Native Contingent,)
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyFri Apr 02, 2021 1:33 pm by gardner1879

» William Papworth. Alan Gardner's servant.
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Apr 01, 2021 10:28 pm by gardner1879

» Smith-Dorrien 1881
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Apr 01, 2021 5:45 pm by John Young

» Archibald Forbes query
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyTue Mar 30, 2021 11:26 am by Julian Whybra

» Norris-Newman
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyMon Mar 29, 2021 10:17 am by ADMIN

» Forum questions or problems!
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Mar 28, 2021 10:25 pm by ADMIN

» Pte Lewitt of the 58th Foot
Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Mar 28, 2021 12:09 am by 90th

» nTshingwayo ka Mahole
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyFri Mar 26, 2021 6:07 am by Frank Allewell

» George Astell Pardoe Lieutentant, 13th Light Infantry
Zulu Rebellion . EmptyWed Mar 24, 2021 12:13 am by 90th

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Rorke's Drift to the British Museum: Story of Henry Hook
Top posters
90th
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
littlehand
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
ADMIN
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
1879graves
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
rusteze
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
John
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
gardner1879
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
John Young
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
90th
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
1879graves
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
rai
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
Visitor
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
ADMIN
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
WeekendWarrior
Zulu Rebellion . Bar_leftZulu Rebellion . BarZulu Rebellion . Bar_right 
Most active topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable.1
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.5
Durnford was he capable. 4
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Adding to the Library
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Keywords
john carbineers Police spalding Mounted Prince Natal George martini henry taylor james Forbes Franklin zulu drift 24th Durnford melvill smith Isandlwana Woolfryes payne Russell harford horse
 

 Zulu Rebellion .

Go down 
AuthorMessage
90th

90th

Posts : 10267
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Jun 19, 2011 8:14 am

Hi all.
I cant remember who it was but one of our lot was looking for books on the Zulu Rebellion , thought this may interest them .

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Anglo-Zulu-War-Incident-Trewirgie-SIGNED-LIMITED-ED-/220801423676?pt=Non_Fiction&hash=item3368ca593c

cheers 90th. Idea
Back to top Go down
tasker224

tasker224

Posts : 2102
Join date : 2010-07-30
Age : 54
Location : North London

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Re: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Jun 19, 2011 11:39 am

looks like a very interesting book.

do you have the book 90th and do you know anything about the author?
Back to top Go down
Eric



Posts : 116
Join date : 2011-06-17

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Re: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Jun 19, 2011 12:33 pm

It is written by Paul Thompson. He was a Professor at University of Natal in PMB and worked with Prof Laband.
He was co author of the Atlas of the zulu Wars and Atlas of the later Zulu wars with Laband. This book is a aort of atlas of the 1906 Uprising. I suspect it was privately published as publishing houses see minimal profit in a book on 1906. All the public wants it seems is Islandwana and Rorkes Drift over and over again.
Paul Thompson also wrote a good monograph about the NNC.
Back to top Go down
tasker224

tasker224

Posts : 2102
Join date : 2010-07-30
Age : 54
Location : North London

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Re: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Jun 19, 2011 2:01 pm

Thanks Eric, might bid.

Just thinking it'd be nice to read a little bit about a period that is not well covered, as you suggest.
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10267
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Jun 19, 2011 2:16 pm

Hi Eric .
First off , welcome aboard . Thanks for posting the info regarding Paul Thompson , saved me going through some books .

Tasker224.
No mate I dont have it , I only stick to the 1877-78-79 time period . I have a couple of the books in which Laband
and Thompson co- wrote .
Cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
Eric



Posts : 116
Join date : 2011-06-17

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Re: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptySun Jun 19, 2011 6:23 pm

Hi thanks for the welcome
Most AZW enthusiasts focus on the events of 1870-1880 and then stop.
That misses out on probably the most important part of Zulu history.
I mean this with all respect but it is a bit of a problem for the Zulu people as it sort of traps them a bit in a Disney type environment. A bit like tourists flocking to Edinburgh to see people re-enacting Bonnie Prince Charlie and the 45 with no idea of how people are existing in modern Scotland. Everyone wants to come and see the traditional ZUlu but tourists are not interested in current issues facing the Zulu people. Authors such as Mr Greaves and Payne have done a lot to address this with their work at the Drift and all credit to them.
The professional historians ( academics who teach at universities) rather than enthusiasts ( like mpst of us are here) tend to focus on the post 1880 events. Jeff Guy and Shula Marks being the two who spring to mind most rapidly. I know Jeff Guy was invited to some SAMH society events but he feels that this is not his focus (strategy and tactics Durnford/Chelmsford/ Chard etc ) but more the class issues and how they impacted on the forcible integration of the Zulu nation into modern capitalist SA and how Zulu nationalism later was almost hijacked by the apartheid government to try and prop up white rule.
Regards
Eric
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell

Posts : 7751
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 74
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Re: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptyMon Jun 20, 2011 8:00 am

Eric
You are quite right in your comments.
But people do tend to become focused. Much as an Ear Nose and Throat specialist is distantly aware that there are other parts of the body , his focus is on that small limited area.
Im probably the worst to comment as I focus through the AZW to isandlwana, and even through that to the fugitives trail. And have done for 40 odd years.
So if I was an ENT specialist I suppose you could say Im focused on the left nostril......bottom end.
:lol!:

Regards
Back to top Go down
Mr Greaves

Mr Greaves

Posts : 747
Join date : 2009-10-18

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Re: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptyTue Jun 21, 2011 2:19 pm

Miniature Natal Zulu Rebellion Medal Clasp 1906 silver

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Miniature-Natal-Zulu-Rebellion-Medal-Clasp-1906-silver-/250836894891?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item3a670b44ab
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10267
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptyWed Jun 22, 2011 3:16 am

Hi all.
If anyone is interested in this medal I can tell you that in the Medal Yearbook 2008 , The clasped 1906 Miniature Medal was valued
at between 50- 65 Quid . Going back further in the 2001 Medal Yearbook the value was between 30-40 Quid .
cheers 90th. Idea
Back to top Go down
Eric



Posts : 116
Join date : 2011-06-17

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Re: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptyWed Jun 22, 2011 10:55 pm

Did they strike a 1906 medal. I thought Winston Churchill had opposed this stating that Natal was the hooligan of the British Empire and that if there was to be a meda they should emblazon it with a picture of Bambatha' severed head. I think the Natal Carbineers cut his head off his corpse to convince the Zulus and the rebels that Bambatha was truly dead.
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10267
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Jun 23, 2011 6:43 am

Hi Eric.
They certainly have a 1906 clasp for the medal according to the medal year book . They also have a figure in brackets alongside
the clasp which is 8,000 and another bracketed figure next to the No Clasp 2,000 . I assume these are the numbers that were struck.
Apparently the N.C did indeed take off Bambatha's head to prove of his death .
cheers 90th.


ps. There is also a medal issued to Natal Naval Corps without clasp ( 67 ) , With Clasp 1906 ( 136 )
Hope this helps .
Back to top Go down
Brett Hendey

Brett Hendey

Posts : 262
Join date : 2010-12-02
Location : Kloof, KZN

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Re: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Jun 23, 2011 7:03 am

90th

Just a small point of clarification .... The Natal Naval Corps was awarded the same medal as all other groups that qualified for it. For some reason, the Medal Yearbook has always listed the Natal Naval Corps medals separately and given them a higher value.

The medals with clasp were awarded to men who served for more than 50 days, while those without clasp went to men who served for 20 to 50 days.

This medal was awarded by the Government of the Colony of Natal and, since no Imperial soldiers took part in the Rebellion, it is a 'British' medal that was not awarded to any British troops.

Regards
Brett
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10267
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Zulu Rebellion . Empty
PostSubject: Zulu Rebellion .   Zulu Rebellion . EmptyThu Jun 23, 2011 7:15 am

Hi Brett.
Thanks for clearing that up , much appreciated.
cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
 
Zulu Rebellion .
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: ZULU WAR PUBLICATIONS & REVIEWS-
Jump to: