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PostSubject: Isandlwana -Message from PULLEINE to CAVAYE is it a fake?   Isandlwana -Message from PULLEINE to CAVAYE is it a fake? EmptyThu Aug 11, 2011 11:31 pm

Hi all,

Ian beckett -Isandlwana 1879 (Battle in focus / Brassey's) p.62

"Shortly after Mostyn's arrival to reinforce Cavaye, Melvill sent a message up to Essex to order the line to fall back slowly as zulus were now appearing in the rear of the camp. Essex timed the withdrawal at about 1230, but attention has been drawn by Edmund Yorke to what appears to be a recently discovered written message from Pulleine to Cavaye sent at 1130, directing him to retire on the camp: zulus are advancing on your right in force .Retire on camp in order .E company will support your right.NNC on your left .E company of course was Cavaye's own and Yorke attributes this to confusion on Pulleine's part".

This message from Pulleine to Cavaye is it a fake?

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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana -Message from PULLEINE to CAVAYE is it a fake?   Isandlwana -Message from PULLEINE to CAVAYE is it a fake? EmptyMon Sep 26, 2011 10:40 am

[quote="ymob"]Hi all,

Ian beckett -Isandlwana 1879 (Battle in focus / Brassey's) p.62

See: RDVC.com FORUMS "orders from PULLEINE to CAVAYE 11h30 /sat Apr 14, 2007 10:48 am



Julian WHYBRA's answer (posted Sun Apr 15, 2007: 12:42 pm)

"according to the research i conducted, i concluded that this document was indeed a fake. A copy of the article Keith (i.e SMITH) refers to does reside in the RRW museum and the article itself is due to be published in the next issue of the AZW Research Society available from John YOUNG. I looked at the possible genuineness of the document from a variety of angles and it doesn't pass muster on any of them (or come anywhere near it). This doc appeared at the same time as some other more obviously faked docs with, probably a common origin. Ed YORKE really did a great disservice by including mention and a photo of it in his Rorke's Drift before it had been properly assesed. I suppose now that we'll be plagued with stories of its being sold from one unsuspecting e-bay punter to the next".



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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana -Message from PULLEINE to CAVAYE is it a fake?   Isandlwana -Message from PULLEINE to CAVAYE is it a fake? EmptyMon Sep 26, 2011 3:48 pm

Is this the message you are referring to?

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[quote="littlehand"]Is this the message you are referring to?

Hi LittleHand,

Great photo!

Could it be this one!!!

(I am not sure, i never see the document)



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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana -Message from PULLEINE to CAVAYE is it a fake?   Isandlwana -Message from PULLEINE to CAVAYE is it a fake? EmptyTue Sep 27, 2011 11:04 am

This was from the exhibtion weekend (Look in the events section for more photographs) But yes this is the geniune message.
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