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Drummer Boy 14

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PostSubject: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptySat Oct 01, 2011 4:13 pm

Hi all just want to clear it up. I have heard people say that Melvile lost the chamber to his revolver and he stated this to Brickhill as they rode away from Isandlwana. But when i actualy read it it stated " Have you seen anything of my sword back their." Just wondering if either was found or anyone can clear up which one he lost.


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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptySat Oct 01, 2011 5:46 pm

I think this has been discussion before. And the sword never was found. Probably carried away by the Zulu. Wonder what that would be worth if it came to light.
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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptySat Oct 01, 2011 9:48 pm

and Coghils sword was taken. imagine if they where both sold together, what would the price be then.
Or if they found the missing Colour pole.
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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptySun Oct 02, 2011 10:41 am

The good thing is of course, there is still hope yet. Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptySun Oct 02, 2011 10:56 am

Unless the Zulus who took them carried them to battle and got killed then the swords where taken by the British as booty. I remember soemthing of Portoues sword being reconized and retured to his family after it was found on a dead Zulu cant remeber where i read it.


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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptySun Oct 02, 2011 2:00 pm

yes lieutenant porteous' sword was found on the field of gingindlovu - ron lock and peter quantrill - zulu vanquished
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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptySun Oct 23, 2011 2:23 pm

Just read that Coghills sword rests next to the Queens Colours in breacon cathedral.

Was it found on his body?

If not where was it found?

Cheers DB14
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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 6:08 pm

I would imagine that Coghill's sword would, if DB14's theory of it being with the colours in the cathedral is correct, would probably have been found on his person. I say this because I would think that if it was captured by the Zulus, it would either been defaced, or kept as a battle trophy. I would therefore ask DB14 to state the condition of the sword when it was found, and then we can get a better idea of exactly what happened to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 6:13 pm

Hi Mr Vereker

The sword belongs to Nevile Coghill VC

I do not know what condition it is in but it is next to the Queens colour.

Hopefully another member may know a little more then i do on
how it came to rest their because as far as i know most people think
that he had his sword on him when he died.


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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 7:59 pm

"On Lieutenant Coghill's body were found his diamond ring, a small Zulu bangle that he used to wear, and his boots and spurs, — everything else had been taken. The party who discovered their bodies also found the colors which they had died to save, among the bowlders in the river"
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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 9:00 pm

So where did his sword appear from?? scratch scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Melviles sword and revolver   Melviles sword and revolver EmptyThu May 11, 2017 10:20 am

I was told coghills sword is in the officers mess of the former RRW. I was told this by a former Sgt of the regimental.
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