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Film Zulu Dawn quote: “Excuse me, my Lord, there's something I must convey to you. I rode along the track down to Rorke's Drift. The sky above is red with fire. Your orders my Lord? Do we move to the drift?”
 
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Drummer Boy 14

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PostSubject: Was it always going to be a defeat??   Was it always going to be a defeat?? EmptyWed Dec 14, 2011 5:07 pm

Considering that the Zulus managed to get into the fortifications at Kambula

And that Kambula had been prepared for an attack for a long time

Plus the Zulus getting very close to the Square at Ulundi

I can't help but think no matter what was done on the 22nd of January The camp would
always have fallen.


Any one else any thoughts Idea


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PostSubject: Re: Was it always going to be a defeat??   Was it always going to be a defeat?? EmptyWed Dec 14, 2011 6:25 pm

DB14, I agree with your thoughts. I think it was always going to be the Zulus' day.
Even if the 2/24th hadn't split off from the camp, I still think the Zulus would have won the day.
(The disaster would have been twice as big; Chelmsford and the 2/24th got lucky).
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PostSubject: was it always going to be a defeat    Was it always going to be a defeat?? EmptyWed Dec 14, 2011 6:31 pm

Hi DB14.
I'm afraid so , there was nothing really that could have been done to save the camp . Others will talk of Laagering ,
Breaking open Ammo boxes etc etc . But , these are all viewed in HINDSIGHT . According to Wood the Kambula battle
was a '' very close run thing '' . If he thought they were lucky to have held on then you can bet with surety it was damn close to becoming another Isandlwana .
Cheers 90th. 😕
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PostSubject: Re: Was it always going to be a defeat??   Was it always going to be a defeat?? EmptyWed Dec 14, 2011 8:00 pm

Look RD. Fought the same day 139 men fortifications installed in hours. 5000 Zulus.
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PostSubject: Re: Was it always going to be a defeat??   Was it always going to be a defeat?? EmptyWed Dec 14, 2011 8:08 pm

RD was diffrent Idea

The place to defend was smaller.

The Zulus didn't attack at once

They didn't have flanks


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