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PostSubject: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptySat Jan 21, 2012 7:16 pm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/South-Africa-Medal-Zulu-War-1897-Clasp-Officer-/160719817698?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256ba5cbe2
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PostSubject: Lt M.G.WALES 1 NNC   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptySat Jan 21, 2012 7:19 pm

Hi Tasker .
When I saw it on ebay I checked the Roll and he wasnt on it , which doesnt mean a great deal as they were far from complete
all the NNC Rolls .
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PostSubject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptyMon Jan 23, 2012 6:41 pm

90th wrote:
Hi Tasker .
When I saw it on ebay I checked the Roll and he wasnt on it , which doesnt mean a great deal as they were far from complete
all the NNC Rolls .
cheers 90th. :joker:

Thanks 90th. The seller says this in his ad also.
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PostSubject: Lt M.G.WALES 1 NNC   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptyTue Jan 24, 2012 12:22 am

Hi Tasker .
Tempted ????. Shocked .
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PostSubject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptyTue Jan 24, 2012 6:42 pm

Yes, I don't have custody of any medals to colonial units in my collection and I missed out on the one to the NMP some months ago, despite bidding what I thought was a reasonable 4 figure sum.
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PostSubject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptyTue Jan 24, 2012 7:19 pm

Hi Tasker

I Have sent you a PM

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PostSubject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptySun Jan 29, 2012 12:30 am

Just over half a day to go. Almost £600 for a medal to an officer of the NNC. Not too bad, one may think.
Snag is, there is no documentary evidence whatsoever, that links this name and rank with this medal. A permanent question mark will exist.
I'm out.
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PostSubject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptySun Jan 29, 2012 6:48 pm

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there is no documentary evidence whatsoever, that links this name and rank with this medal

He was an NNC Officer, served with 1/1 NNC from late 1878, medal not on the roll but this is not that uncommon with medals to Colonials/Irregulars.

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PostSubject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptySun Jan 29, 2012 7:02 pm

Source?

The docs shown in the advert do show a Wales, but on one the initial is M J and on the other G M. On the medal we have M G.
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PostSubject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptySun Jan 29, 2012 7:17 pm

Local General Orders - these were published in various Natal newspapers at the time giving details of recruitment, promotions etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptySun Jan 29, 2012 7:42 pm

OK, many thanks Jager. I don't have access to these.
Were you able to confirm the name precisely as "M G Wales"... and did you win it?
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PostSubject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent   Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent EmptyMon Jan 30, 2012 6:38 pm

Yes its M G Wales , order 208 28th Nov 1878 (Times of Natal 2nd Dec).

The page from 'War Comes to Umvoti' sais M J Wales but the J will just be an error,probably copied from another Order of the time - errors with initials and surname spellings are pretty common in these
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