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| Sgt John Lines 2/24th - KIA iSandlwana | |
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tasker224
Posts : 2101 Join date : 2010-07-30 Age : 57 Location : North London
| Subject: Sgt John Lines 2/24th - KIA iSandlwana Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:20 pm | |
| http://www.dnw.co.uk/medals/auctions/rostrumauctions/auctioncatalogue/lotdetail.lasso?auction=Medals+28+Mar+12&id=1690&lot=124 |
| | | SergioD
Posts : 401 Join date : 2012-03-27 Age : 62 Location : London/Herts
| Subject: Re: Sgt John Lines 2/24th - KIA iSandlwana Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:20 am | |
| Hi - New to forum - pretty amazing stuff - congrats to you guys - am a bit worried about losing my job though Any idea as to how much this medal could go for - I know these estimates are just to s suck you in. Can you see it getting beyond £10,000 |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10911 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Sgt John Lines 2 / 24th KIA Isandlwana Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:52 pm | |
| Hi SergioD. First of all welcome to the forum , not sure what price the ' Lines ' medal will go for , but once the winning bidder pays the 20 % Hammer fee and whatever other expenses he will accumulate ; there wont be much change from 10, 000 GBP'S . The Keane and Secretan Medals I think will be the most expensive of those from the AZW of 1879 . After all there were only 27 ? NMP KIA at Isandlwana . . cheers 90th. |
| | | SergioD
Posts : 401 Join date : 2012-03-27 Age : 62 Location : London/Herts
| Subject: Re: Sgt John Lines 2/24th - KIA iSandlwana Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:03 pm | |
| Thanks - I know DNW have certainly had some interesting AZW medals recently . I know it is so easy to froget the premium and the VAT on the premium !! in the excitement of bidding. Will be interested to see where it comes out.
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| | | SergioD
Posts : 401 Join date : 2012-03-27 Age : 62 Location : London/Herts
| Subject: Re: Sgt John Lines 2/24th - KIA iSandlwana Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:27 am | |
| Hammer price of £7800 - all information on Sergeant Lines would be greatfully recieved.
Cheers
Sergio |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10911 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Sgt John Lines 2 / 24th KIA Isandlwana Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:01 pm | |
| Hi SergioD. Well done , a good get . The following from ' The Noble 24th ' by Norman Holme ...... Lines , John , 2-24 / 2227. Sergeant . Born at Sibford Ferris Oxfordshire , Transferred from 1 /24th ( 1-24 / 897 ) to 2 /24th 15 / 3 /70. Promoted Corporal 31 / 1 / 72. Sergeant Circa 1874 , Served in A Co . In action Baillie's Grave 7 / 4 / 78. He was beside 102 Pvt Collins at the time of his death in that action , In a letter dated 5 / 10 / 78 at Pietermaritzburg , he states - '' I had a very narrow escape of being shot by the Kaffirs - at Bailey's Grave there was one man shot dead only 3 yds from me . I expect I should have shared the same fate only I was lying down and he was standing up , but as soon as I got to my legs the bullets came around me like hail ''. ( Regimental Archive ) . South Africa Medal with Clasp 77-78-79 ; Issued 25 / 8 / 82. cheers 90th. |
| | | SergioD
Posts : 401 Join date : 2012-03-27 Age : 62 Location : London/Herts
| Subject: Re: Sgt John Lines 2/24th - KIA iSandlwana Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:15 pm | |
| Thanks 90th - now the fun starts - plotting G Companys role and position during Isandlwana and looking into the Action at Baillie's Grave (which I had never heard of).
Happy Days
Sergio |
| | | Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Sgt John Lines 2/24th - KIA iSandlwana Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:58 pm | |
| Hi Segio We will never know with any real accuracy where each of the companies were positioned. Different suvivors place them at variance. G companys final position is pretty much without doubt. The bodies were recognised by Bassage and located at there picket position of the preceeding evening. Different authors/historians have them on the extreme right of the line others have Lonsdale on their right. But pretty much they faced onto the right of the conical koppie and bore the brunt of the left horn when Durnford retired.
Regards |
| | | james-millership
Posts : 73 Join date : 2009-11-11 Age : 36 Location : England
| Subject: Re: Sgt John Lines 2/24th - KIA iSandlwana Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:01 pm | |
| Its nice to think my ancestor private henry slade 895 would have known this man :) congratulations on getting this medal! |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10911 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Sgt John Lines 2 / 24th KIA Isandlwana Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:22 am | |
| Hi SergioD. Dont know if this will help but I have ' The Frontier War Journal Of Major John Crealock ' - Edited and Introduced by Chris Hummel. Bailie's Grave Post is mentioned on pages 27 , 31 , 33 , 35 , 44 .46 , 47 , 50 , 59 ,67, 68, 74 , 86, 142 , 147 & 148. I havent read it yet , its one of many I havent had the time to read . . But if you find a cheapish copy it may be worthwhile grabbing . The ISBN is 0620144556 . Hope this has been of some help . cheers 90th. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10911 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Sgt John Lines 2 / 24th KIA Isandlwana Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:30 am | |
| Hi SergioD. ' The Road To Isandlwana ' by Philip Gon has a footnote on page 152 which states the following about Bailie's Grave ; '' The post , abandoned after the last frontier war , had acquired its sinister name in 1835 , when a Colonial patrol led by a Lt. Charles Bailie was ambushed and massacred in a nearby Kloof '' . cheers 90th. |
| | | SergioD
Posts : 401 Join date : 2012-03-27 Age : 62 Location : London/Herts
| Subject: Re: Sgt John Lines 2/24th - KIA iSandlwana Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:34 am | |
| Hi 90th
I found some ionformation Re the action on Bailies Grave at Royal Regiment of Wales website - it references the death that Lines refers to in his letter . This was the only casualty on that day.
Cheers
Sergio |
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