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1879graves

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PostSubject: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptySun Apr 08, 2012 7:59 pm

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In the photograph attached there is a chap sat on the floor furthest right with his hand on his knee wearing a cap. do you know the identity of the man in
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PostSubject: Help Required to Identify 24th Officer   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptySun Apr 08, 2012 11:13 pm

Hi Graves / Ciroferrara.
Could it be Lt. C.J. Atkinson ??????.
cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 10:27 am

im fairly convince the chap is Lieutenant Edgar Oliphant Anstey
but i may be wrong?
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 3:22 pm

ciroferrara wrote:
im fairly convince the chap is Lieutenant Edgar Oliphant Anstey
but i may be wrong?

It does look a bit like Anstey.
Isn't that Paymaster White in the back row in the hat that looks rather clerical?
What is the photo and where was it taken?
Any other recognisable Isandlwana casualties in it?
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 3:35 pm

it was take in malta i beleive in 1872 : reclining backwards on the floor in the middle is captain mostyn F COMPANY

2 across to the left from major white with dark moustache is lieutenant melville

by the shuttered window on the left the tall chap with dark moustache is captain wardell
and to the left of him with no moustache is lietenant porteous

the man stood behind colonel glyn to the left of melville is captain harris of b company 1/24th whose company
was on detached duty in pondoland during the zuluwar
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the man circled im sure is lieutenant anstey does anyone have a listing for this photo?
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 4:36 pm

I haven't checked ages but I seem to recall Anstey was pretty young at Isandhlwautf- so perhaps 1872 would be too early a date for him in the 24th?
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 4:41 pm

Hi

Anstey was gazetted Sub-Lieutenant on 9th March 1872.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 8:02 pm

i beleive that anstey was around 28 when he was killed at Isandhlwautf ... but im still convinced its him in the photo
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 8:59 pm

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Not Convinced.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 12:27 am

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Humm, jaw line, ears, nose, right brow??
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 8:04 am

Dundeebore. Is that from the same photo that was originally posted. If yest what photo software do you use.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 10:18 am

I think it is him from that blow up.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 10:35 am

The photo is part of the Ron Sheeley collection. Due credits to him. It was taken in Malta at the beginning of 1870s
It apears in Like Wolves to the Fold.
Col Snook identifies a lot of the people present but not that particular person.
Upsher on the left with hand on hip
Porteous standing third from left
Wardell standing 5th from left
Harrison standing 8th from left
White standing wearing the civilian hat.
Henry Degacher seated arms folded
Glyn seated to his left
Dunbar seated 2 down from Glynn
Mostyn third from left on the ground.

Does look like Anstey though.

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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 8:37 pm

with the blown up pics it makes me even more sure that its him,. the faces are too similsar for it not too be him
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyWed Apr 11, 2012 12:05 am

Impi,
No magic software. I have this photo. Sadly it was matted and part of a scrapbook with numbers written on it for each man.(no names anywhere though) Then some genius applied a lacquer or glue like coating. O’ well, you take what you can get sometimes.

Cheers, Jeff
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PostSubject: Re: Help Required to identify 24th Soldier   Help Required to identify 24th Soldier EmptyWed Apr 11, 2012 11:28 pm

Thanks I was hoping you had some unknown photo software not available in the UK. Live in hope that's what I say.
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