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PostSubject: Can anyone identify this person?   Can anyone identify this person? EmptySun Jul 05, 2009 7:19 pm

A friend at work has asked me to post this on the forum, in the hope someone maybe able to identify him. It’s a rather old photo and not in good condition. He found it in an old book he brought at a boot fair, it probably has nothing to do with the AZW. But I’m just doing him a favour. (Hope you don’t mind) (He looks a bit German)

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The cross in the middle of his chest certainly looks German. What was the title of the book he found it in?
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PostSubject: Re: Can anyone identify this person?   Can anyone identify this person? EmptySun Jul 05, 2009 7:31 pm

Littlehand.
Was it an actual photo? Found in the book, or from the book. (And Could it Albert. Queen Victorians Husband.)
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John. I don't think its Prince Albert. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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24th / John.
I will let you know Tuesday. I will be seeing him tomorrow night at work.
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PostSubject: Re: Can anyone identify this person?   Can anyone identify this person? EmptySun Jul 05, 2009 9:05 pm

Littlehand,

The photograph does have something to do with the Anglo-Zulu War. It is of Drury Curzon Drury-Lowe, who commanded the 17th Lancers during the campaign. The photograph appears to be late 1880's/early 1890's.

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Guess what. I bet my wife £5.00 that Isandlwana would come up with the name.
Thanks, Isandlwana I’m up £5.00. I will let him know.
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PostSubject: Re: Can anyone identify this person?   Can anyone identify this person? EmptySun Jul 05, 2009 9:20 pm

Nice one Isandlwana.

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Here is some more information.

General Sir Drury Curzon Drury Lowe. (1896)
This distinguished cavalry officer is the Colonel of the 17th Lancers, with which gallant regiment Sir Drury Lowe throughout his career, from cornet to colonel, has ever been intimately associated. He served with the 17th Lancers in the Crimea, in India during the Mutiny, and in Zululand, and was at the head of the regiment as Lieutenant-Colonel Commanding from 1866 to 1879. As Commander of the British cavalry throughtout the Egyptian War of 1882, Sir Drury Lowe's name has become widely familiar particularly in connection with the "midnight charge" at Kassassin, and brilliant dash across country after the battle of Tel-El-Kebir, which resulted in the capture of Cairo. Since then Sir Drury Lowe has commanded the Aldershot Cavalry Brigade and held the post of Inspector-General in Great Britain. He was born in 1830, joined the 17th Lancers in 1854, and was appointed Colonel of his regiment in 1892.
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PostSubject: Re: Can anyone identify this person?   Can anyone identify this person? EmptySun Jul 05, 2009 9:35 pm

Isandlwana. You beat me to it.

Extract. From Battle of Ulundi - Anglo Zulu War of 1879 South Africa (Friday, 4th July 1879) Colonel Drury Curzon Drury Lowe extract.

“Those within the square who had witnessed Zulu attacks in previous actions felt that the assault lacked the ardour, the ferocity of previous engagements. There was a determined rush from the direction of kwaNodwengu of some 2,000 to 3,000 warriors on the corner of the square held by the 21st (The Royal Scots Fusiliers) and the 58th (The Rutlandshire) Regiments. Chelmsford saw the emergency and implored his men, "Cannot you fire faster?" The infantry duly obliged, their concentrated fire destroying the Zulu rush.

Colonel Drury Curzon Drury Lowe had been recalled from Half Pay to assume the command of the 17th Lancers, after the commanding officer had been wounded in a training exercise just prior to embarkation for the seat of war. A spent round struck Drury Lowe and unhorsed him, he made a brief self-examination and satisfied he had not sustained any serious wound he remounted. Drury Lowe had served with his regiment in the Crimea, but had not ridden in The Charge of the Light Brigade, although his brother had. No minor wound would rob him of the chance of participating in a cavalry charge at the head of the "Death or Glory Boys".

The Zulu attacks were by now faltering all round. They fell back, disorganised by the effect of the British firepower. Chelmsford chose this moment to unleash his regular cavalry, he ordered, "Go at them, Lowe, but don't pursue too far!" Drury Lowe led his squadrons out of the rear face of the square, formed, and charged the fleeing warriors. From the front of the square issued Buller's horsemen and a troop of 1st (The King's) Dragoon Guards. A ruthless, relentless and pitiless pursuit commenced with no quarter being sought by the Zulu and certainly none being offered by the British. There were score to settle, Isandlwana was to be avenged. Clemency was thrown to the wind as the Natal Native Horse and African infantry of the Natal Native Contingent and Wood's Irregulars set about butchering the Zulu wounded to a man. The huts that dotted the plain were put to the torch. Cannon pounded the retreating Zulus, before the gunners turned their attention to shelling Ulundi (onDini), King Cetshwayo's own ikhanda.”
Shortly after 10a.m. Chelmsford ordered Buller to burn Ulundi. A race commenced to see who would be first enter Ulundi, Captain Lord William Beresford, 9th Lancers, won it. The Zulu 'capital' was set aflame, the fires of its destruction would burn for days. As for King Cetshwayo, he had left Ulundi on the 3rd of July, and had been sheltering a nearby village when he heard of the defeat of his army, he too fled, a fugitive in his own kingdom."

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S.D.,

Isn't that a direct, unacknowledged, lift from rdvc.com?

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hi all.

wasnt sure who it was, but second medal in from the left on his breast is THE SOUTH AFRICAN WAR MEDAL, ( zulu war medal).

cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: Can anyone identify this person?   Can anyone identify this person? EmptyMon Jul 06, 2009 6:32 am

Isandlwana. It could be. if there apart of (ECO-Travel)
Along with.

Ultimatum Tree
» Battle of Nyezane
» Battle of Isandlwana
» Fugitives' Drift
» Battle of Rorke's Drift
» Siege of Eshowe
» Ntombi drift
» Battle of Hlobane
» Battle of Khambula
» Battle of Gingindlovu
» Prince Imperial Memorial
» Battle of Ulundi

Just a bit of information for littlehands mate.

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90th,

Drury-Lowe's 2nd medal is his Indian Mutiny medal. His 1879 Bar South African Medal is the third one.

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No rdvc.com has nothing to do with Eco-Travel, who have lifted my copyrighted text without my authority and published it on their website, I await their reply as to why.

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