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John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 61 Location : UK
| Subject: Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:29 pm | |
| "Pea-Body Martinti Rifle, Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment." What does this attachment do , was it used the Zulu War. |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:40 pm | |
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| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:46 pm | |
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| | | John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 61 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:52 pm | |
| Thanks LH. Or could it be an additional ammuntion feeder. |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:54 pm | |
| Doub't it. The MH was a single shot breechloader. |
| | | Drummer Boy 14
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2011-08-01 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:16 pm | |
| I think its just a place to put cartridges, like the americans did with there carbines in ww2.
Cheers |
| | | John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 61 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:06 pm | |
| That's what we thought. Would have been easier to get the ammo from a pouch, or just put a handfull of rounds on the ground. |
| | | barry
Posts : 947 Join date : 2011-10-21 Location : Algoa Bay
| Subject: MH cartrdge holder Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:44 pm | |
| Hi john, Correct, this deviice is neither a ammunition feeder or a clip, it is merely a cartridge holder. Placed on the right side of the breach of the MH, as dislayed, it faciltates faster loading, with the right hand. Modern day applications of this sees similar "holders" on the belts of hunters or on the stocks of the weapons (mostly shot guns) used by special forces around the world.
regards
barry |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10882 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:03 am | |
| Hi All . I'd certainly say that it never took any part in the zulu war !. Cheers 90th. |
| | | Neil Aspinshaw
Posts : 553 Join date : 2009-10-14 Location : Loughborough
| Subject: Re: Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:33 pm | |
| Its classed as a speed loader, which brings the ammo close to the right of the action, not a new concept and still used today in practical shotgun competition for spedy loading. The war office trialled various options, approved was the Enfield quick loader in 1882, and it was Manufactured on the Martini Enfield Mk1 Pattern A, It was a steel magazine which clipped on the side of the action in a special bracket when needed. It held eight rounds and was expected to be kept in the valise until required. The theory was sound and some were supplied to the Victorian Government of Australia circa 1883 for fitting on MKIII Rifles, and whilst the loader has been lost in time, so rifles carry the bracket..or scars of it still. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]The War office trialled various speed loaders, some ingenious, some overly complicated. The most ingenious was that of Captain C Greville Hartson in 1887 a self feeding magazine which tipped the round onto the block, fed it in and extracted it. I've inspected and photographed this device and its a Jam-tastic idea..... the Enfield Spool loader, the warry and the Owen Jones magazine all trialled but never reaching full issue. |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Metcalfe Patent Cartridge Block Attachment Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:54 pm | |
| Looks a bit odd stuck on the side. Never see one until John got me searching.. |
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