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PostSubject: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyMon Jul 16, 2012 5:52 am

Barry wrote

"Correct, one again there are many reports which say that those men who were at lunch
and turned out in a hurry, only had 40 rounds on them."


Can someone please tell me a single one of these " many reports " that says the men only had 40 rounds ?

Private Bickley wrote
" The men were dismissed with orders not to take off there accoutrments."

Private Wilson wrote
"Colonel Pulleine gave orders to fall out without taking of their accoutrements."

So they had been specifically ordered to carry all there kit and 70 rounds, so can someone show me the
Many Sources that say they had 40 ?

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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyMon Jul 16, 2012 6:00 am

Why have you started another thread on the same subject. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyMon Jul 16, 2012 6:24 am

This thread is specifically about if the men were carrying less then 70 rounds, not the supply to them during the battle.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 7:44 am

Under which conditions would soldiers have 40 or 70 with them? Are there any known regulations?
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 7:46 am

70 rounds at all times, they had orders not to take any of their kit off, so i realy don't know where the
surposed 40 rounds comes from.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 7:55 am

Drummer Boy 14 wrote:
70 rounds at all times, they had orders not to take any of their kit off, so i realy don't know where the
surposed 40 rounds comes from.
Maybe from the fact that only 40 rounds can be carried in the two ammopouches?
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 7:56 am

10 more in the expence pouch and 20 more in the haversack.
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Drummer Boy 14 wrote:
10 more in the expence pouch and 20 more in the haversack.
Yes, I know. I was just speculating why they might have come up with 40 rounds.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 8:06 am

Jackson, in his letter to the editor of SOTQ, clearly proves Morris, Barry are inncorrect when they say the
men had 40 or 50 rounds.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 8:41 am

I don't own Jacksons book, How does he prove "Morris, Barry" were incorrect.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyThu Jul 19, 2012 1:58 am

Barry says

"Once again there are many reports which say that those men who were at lunch
and turned out in a hurry, only had 40 rounds on them."


He is incorrect, there isn't a single report that says the above, Jackson went through everyone one.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyThu Jul 19, 2012 3:23 am

Pte.Williams reported firing together with Pte. Hough." 40 to 50 rounds each."
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyThu Jul 19, 2012 3:38 am

so ?
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyThu Jul 19, 2012 3:58 am

DB. I was merely pointing out that an account exsitsts to say they only had 40-50 wether it's in-connection with the same subject I know not.

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LH

They say they fired 50 rounds, then went off and fired the rest, ergo they had then 50.
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