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PostSubject: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptySun Jul 15, 2012 7:52 pm

Barry wrote

"Correct, one again there are many reports which say that those men who were at lunch
and turned out in a hurry, only had 40 rounds on them."


Can someone please tell me a single one of these " many reports " that says the men only had 40 rounds ?

Private Bickley wrote
" The men were dismissed with orders not to take off there accoutrments."

Private Wilson wrote
"Colonel Pulleine gave orders to fall out without taking of their accoutrements."

So they had been specifically ordered to carry all there kit and 70 rounds, so can someone show me the
Many Sources that say they had 40 ?

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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptySun Jul 15, 2012 8:00 pm

Why have you started another thread on the same subject. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptySun Jul 15, 2012 8:24 pm

This thread is specifically about if the men were carrying less then 70 rounds, not the supply to them during the battle.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyTue Jul 17, 2012 9:44 pm

Under which conditions would soldiers have 40 or 70 with them? Are there any known regulations?
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyTue Jul 17, 2012 9:46 pm

70 rounds at all times, they had orders not to take any of their kit off, so i realy don't know where the
surposed 40 rounds comes from.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyTue Jul 17, 2012 9:55 pm

Drummer Boy 14 wrote:
70 rounds at all times, they had orders not to take any of their kit off, so i realy don't know where the
surposed 40 rounds comes from.
Maybe from the fact that only 40 rounds can be carried in the two ammopouches?
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyTue Jul 17, 2012 9:56 pm

10 more in the expence pouch and 20 more in the haversack.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyTue Jul 17, 2012 9:58 pm

Drummer Boy 14 wrote:
10 more in the expence pouch and 20 more in the haversack.
Yes, I know. I was just speculating why they might have come up with 40 rounds.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyTue Jul 17, 2012 10:06 pm

Jackson, in his letter to the editor of SOTQ, clearly proves Morris, Barry are inncorrect when they say the
men had 40 or 50 rounds.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyTue Jul 17, 2012 10:41 pm

I don't own Jacksons book, How does he prove "Morris, Barry" were incorrect.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 3:58 pm

Barry says

"Once again there are many reports which say that those men who were at lunch
and turned out in a hurry, only had 40 rounds on them."


He is incorrect, there isn't a single report that says the above, Jackson went through everyone one.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 5:23 pm

Pte.Williams reported firing together with Pte. Hough." 40 to 50 rounds each."
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 5:38 pm

so ?
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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 5:58 pm

DB. I was merely pointing out that an account exsitsts to say they only had 40-50 wether it's in-connection with the same subject I know not.

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PostSubject: Re: 40 rounds ?   40 rounds ? EmptyWed Jul 18, 2012 6:09 pm

LH

They say they fired 50 rounds, then went off and fired the rest, ergo they had then 50.
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