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PostSubject: revenge !!!   revenge !!! EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 8:43 am

Hi all

There is not a single survivor of Isandhlwana, or a family member of one of the killed, which is sought revenge on LC ?

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PostSubject: Re: revenge !!!   revenge !!! EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 8:52 am

LC is no longer with us to take revenge on.
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PostSubject: Re: revenge !!!   revenge !!! EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 11:45 am

What would you do if you had survived at Isandhlwana, and then crossed LC?
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PostSubject: Re: revenge !!!   revenge !!! EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 12:24 pm

Hi Pascal,
Probably nothing because it was not entirely his fault. Sadly, tragedy happens occasionally in military conflict.
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PostSubject: Re: revenge !!!   revenge !!! EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 12:26 pm

Millions died in WW1 but i have never heard of any attempt on Petain or Haig so why would you pick Chelmsford ?

I do not think this will go anywhere except The Ring.

And i will not be going with it :lol:
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PostSubject: Re: revenge !!!   revenge !!! EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 1:16 pm

You're right Garywilson0,5, LC was a genius and should have great beings decorated no later than January 24, 1879...

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PostSubject: Re: revenge !!!   revenge !!! EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 1:36 pm

garywilson1 wrote:
Millions died in WW1 but i have never heard of any attempt on Petain or Haig so why would you pick Chelmsford ?

I do not think this will go anywhere except The Ring.

And i will not be going with it :lol:

It is not only about the numbers who died, Gary. My grand father's brother was killed on the Somme and sad as I find that when I look at his name on the memorial at Thiepval, I can accept it and feel only pride, as there really was no alternative. The Germans were a mechanised army, more than a match for the Allies and firmly entrenched. The Somme offensive, tragic as it was, had to happen and even with hindsight, no one has come up with a viable alternative as to how the Germans could be forced back Eastwards, given the technology ranged against each other and the tactics of the day. It had become a stalemate. An armistice was becoming inevitable by the Summer of 1916 and if no progress had been imminent in shifting the Germans out of their trenches, the Germans would have kept what they held at that armistice and the borders of Europe would have looked very different today.
Chelmsford is generally "picked on" because even arm-chair generals like you and I, given hindsight, can see many improvements in leadership and management of the third column, that could have and would have averted the disaster of iSandlwana.
Not one arm-chair general has ever come up with something different that Haig et al could have done.
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PostSubject: Re: revenge !!!   revenge !!! EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 2:01 pm

Dear Tasker224

LC knew the Zulu numbers and tactical before Isandhlwana, it has no excuses ...

And for the first world war, it is a shame even worse for the generals, who decided Operations after the first Marne battle and before the second Marne battle...

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PostSubject: Re: revenge !!!   revenge !!! EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 2:55 pm

Tasker , i did not mean to imply anything about Haig ,i was asking why Pascal had singled out LC .
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PostSubject: Re: revenge !!!   revenge !!! EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 4:40 pm

Yes,yes LC was a genius général and Haig also :lol: :lol: :lol:
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