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PostSubject: French in the Transvaal irregulars units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 12:21 pm

Hi all

Anyone on the forum knows anything about the French in the Transvaal irregulars units?.

Thanks for help

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PostSubject: Re: French in the Transvaal irregulars units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyMon Dec 03, 2012 9:21 pm

It seems that there is information about this in:

With His Face to the Foe: Life and Death of the Prince Imperial

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PostSubject: Re: French in the Transvaal irregulars units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyWed Dec 05, 2012 7:50 pm

I've a medal to a Frenchman who served in the Frontier Light Horse, not a Transvaal Unit but served closely with the Border Horse etc

Emile BOUFFET, born circa 1845 Amiens, he apparently left for South Africa 1876/7 and was serving as a Sergeant and later Regimental Sergeant Major of the Frontier Light Horse 15th Feb 1878 until end of August 1879. He wounded at Hlobane during the Zulu War. I later picked up a mention of him during the Mapoch war of 1882/3, where he seemed to be acting as an interpreter to a Chief!

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PostSubject: Re: French in the Transvaal irregulars units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyThu Dec 06, 2012 8:04 am

Hello

Thank you Justin, I searched all night and part of the night, I only find things on the Boer War 1899 -1902 ...

I know boaparte was visiting wounded French (Wounded in battles fought by Wood)

I misspoke, I'm not talking about the units of Transvaal, but who were with Wood ...

It seems that the French men were mostly in the FLH and WBH ...

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PostSubject: Re: French in the Transvaal irregulars units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyThu Dec 06, 2012 10:43 am

Apart from Grandier I can't think of any other Frenchmen off hand that are mentioned to any extent but the Border Horse certainly had others and going through the medal rolls their are a good deal of French sounding names. Certainly these units contained a huge mix of men of different Nationalities.

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PostSubject: Re: French in the Transvaal irregulars units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyThu Dec 06, 2012 11:05 am

Hi Justin

Yes it is true but there are many French-sounding name on the rolls of these two units, but unfortunately it does not prove anything ...

If I manage to find enough, I think that playing on their chauvinism, I would interest fellow to this war purely British ... Do you understand ?

Thanks for your help...we must continue, please...

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PostSubject: Re: French in the Transvaal irregulars units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyThu Dec 06, 2012 11:11 am

Pascal

I just went through the rolls and there are many French sounding names but as you say that does not make them French.

I noted a few I either know are French or probably are

Bakers Horse:
Tpr Leon Surgina

Bettingtons
Tpr Barbourns
Tpr Le Tocq

Border Horse
Tpr Boudoin - survived Hlobane by hiding
Tpr Grandier - POW Hlobane

FLH
Sjt Maj Bouffet WIA Hlobane
Tpr Potgietor

NLH
Tpr Beissner

There are more names but..

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PostSubject: Re: French in the Transvaal irregulars units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyThu Dec 06, 2012 11:18 am

Thank you.


Yes this is what I explained earlier on French sounding names ...

Find if you could name of the the wounded visited by Bonaparte, it will help a lot ...

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PostSubject: French in the Trasvaal Irregular units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyThu Dec 06, 2012 11:22 am

Hi Justin / Pascal La Rascal
I have a medal to a chap in the NLH who seems to have a French Name , Trpr . L. Dupuis .
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PostSubject: French In The Transvaal Irregular Units    French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyThu Dec 06, 2012 11:26 am

Hi Justin.
Tpr Le Toqc of Bettington's Horse was I think from Guernsey or another of the Channel Islands . He was also on the Patrol which resulted in the death of the P.Imperial .
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PostSubject: Re: French in the Transvaal irregulars units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyThu Dec 06, 2012 11:29 am

Hi,Congratulations and thank you my good kangaroo

In some time, when we're done, we will be able to make a summary, a very interesting ... small file with above example ,will beings very interessant ...

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PostSubject: Re: French in the Transvaal irregulars units   French in the Transvaal irregulars units EmptyThu Dec 06, 2012 11:31 am

Also Tpr Le Toqc of Bettington's Horse is not good for our list ... Sad
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