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PostSubject: Can you help me identify these buttons?   Can you help me identify these buttons? EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 5:14 pm

Hi all,
in going through a box of old stuff I came across letters from my Grandfather, who fought with the Cape Town Highlanders in the BechuanaLand campaign of 1897, and some letters from his father who was part of N/5 at Isandlwana. Well, in one of the envelopes I found 4 small gold flat buttons, about 15mm across, with a silver horn dangling on a rope. Really curious as to whom they may have belonged.
Any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: Can you help me identify these buttons?   Can you help me identify these buttons? EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 5:37 pm

These are light infantry buttons - probably an officer but hard to be more specific are there anymore marks on the back?
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PostSubject: Re: Can you help me identify these buttons?   Can you help me identify these buttons? EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 5:52 pm

Nearly the same.

http://www.ecsnaith.com/buttons/mounted-buttons/li-brass-blazer-button-32l.html
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PostSubject: Re: Can you help me identify these buttons?   Can you help me identify these buttons? EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 7:27 pm

the bugle horn is the insignia of the Rifles and LI.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you help me identify these buttons?   Can you help me identify these buttons? EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 8:37 am

[quote="jc_tx"]Hi all,
in going through a box of old stuff I came across letters from my Grandfather, who fought with the Cape Town Highlanders in the BechuanaLand campaign of 1897, and some letters from his father who was part of N/5 at Isandlwana.

Hi Jc tx,
Have ou got letters on the ' first invasion' of the AZW?
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They look like they could be fairly modern LI blazer buttons.
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ymob wrote:

Hi Jc tx,
Have ou got letters on the ' first invasion' of the AZW?
Regard

Not sure as what was the first invation, but I found letters addressed to his wife around July 1878 during the trek with Col Woods column to Natal. Reading these letters and seeing the humanity in the man is touching - his concern for his wife and 6 young children was clearly evident.
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Hi jc_tx
Ymob is talking of the initial invasion of zululand , 11th Jan 1879 .
cheers 90th.
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What was his name?
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[quote="jc_tx"][quote="ymob"]

"jc_tx" said:

I found letters addressed to his wife around July 1878 during the trek with Col Woods column to Natal
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Hi "jc_tx",
Those letters can have a real historic interest .
I think of the Frank Emery 's great work ("Marching over africa: letters from Victorians soldiers" or "the Reds Soldier: letters from the zulu war 1879").
I suggest you to contact Julian WHYBRA, a membrer of this forum, un honest, rigourous and meticulous historian.

I.E Thanks to 90th for the precision
I.E Littlehand : QMS or Staff sergeant James COOKE N/5 R.A

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Bonsoir Littlehand,

James COOK (QMS /but Staff sergeant for Jullian WHYBRA) N/5 RA is the " avatar" of jc_tx;
He vas (probably) with HARNESS the 22/01/1879.
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Hi Ymob .
I think it was established on another thread that James Cook was indeed with Harness , if he wasnt he probably wouldnt have survived Isandlwana , in saying that , there were 11 surviviors and possibly another from N / 5Bde according to Julian's
' England's Sons '.
Cheers 90th.
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Hi 90th
I am agree with you. I have read 'England's sons'. COOKE was not at Isandhlwana the 22/01/1879. But i don't prove that he was with HARNESS!
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[quote="jc_tx"][quote="ymob"]
Hi Jc tx,
Julian WHYBRA has wrote an article on the Royal Artillery at Isandhlwana ('Royal artillery men at Isandhlwana').
Cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you help me identify these buttons?   Can you help me identify these buttons? EmptyFri Jan 04, 2013 7:47 am

The buttons look suspiciously like 'Stay Bright', that would put them around early sixties.

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