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Subject: Morosi's Mountain Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:12 pm
Here i go with another stupid question. But if i don't ask i will never know.
Morosi's Mountain was attacked on the On 5th June 1879 in South Africa. Is this not connected with the Zulu War. It’s something that as baffled me for ages.
90th
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Subject: Re: Morosi's Mountain Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:27 pm
Hi Ray63 No , Morosi's mtn has nothing to do with the Zulu War , except that those who took part were issued the same medal as those who fought in the Zulu War . The attack you mention on 5th June was a failure and another attack which was successful was I think carried out in the Nov of 1879 . Cheers 90th.
littlehand
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Subject: Re: Morosi's Mountain Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:31 pm
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Subject: Re: Morosi's Mountain Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:56 pm
Ray63. I think there was a VC earned at Morosi's Mtn not sure if it was the June Battle or the later one in Nov. Try the Search Box as I know there have been items posted on the Forum in regard to this / these Battles. Or I'm fairly certain there was ! . 90th.
Ray63
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Subject: Re: Morosi's Mountain Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:57 pm
Quote :
except that those who took part were issued the same medal as those who fought in the Zulu War
Even more baffled
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Subject: Re: Morosi's Mountain Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:04 am
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Subject: Re: Morosi's Mountain Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:05 am
Hi Ray63. The same medal was issued for the campaigns in 77-78-79 , the differences being the Clasps . It was a similar medal for the 1853 Campaign , the Ribbon was the same , the difference being the Date '' 1853 '' on the bottom of the medal on one side , and the medal for the 77-78-79 campaigns has a Lion crouching or stooping with some crossed assegais . Thats as plain as I can put it . If your still not sure whats going on , either try the search box or Google '' Morosi's Mtn '' or '' Battle's at Morosi's Mountain . Its a lot easier to read up on it , than me trying to explain it ! . Cheers 90th.
Ray63
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Subject: Re: Morosi's Mountain Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:12 am
Ok Thanks. I have used the search box, but nothing helpefull. They received the 1879 Medal and were in South Africa at the time of the Zulu War
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Subject: Re: Morosi's Mountain Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:22 am
Hi Ray63. I suggest you '' Google '' the battle , you'll find a lot of info .Two of the Regt's involved in the June action were the Cape Mounted Riflemen and the Cape Mounted Yeomanry , I think there may have been others but dont have the time to find them . As I said Google it and your questions will be answered . Cheers 90th.
littlehand
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"A correspondent, writing after the unsuccessful attack on Morosi Mountain, says —"I now come to the poor wounded. If ever one's heart bled out of .pity for anyone, it would have bled that eight, and more especially the following morning. The wounded had to be carried down the mountain in blankets not a single stretcher provided—not a single mattress to lay the poor fellows on. Only one tent was pitched in which to place the wounded. There were no more tents in the camp. Men living in damp sod wall tents, with a blanket over the top for a roof, gave up these damp places to put four of the wounded in. They were laid on stinking sheepskins as siib- Btitutes for mattresses, and the wonder is that the treatment did not kill them. Is this the way that Christians should be treated Have you ever heard of such mismanagement Ought not these men, no matter who they be, who are responsible for this wanton cruelty to the wounded, to be brought to account for it by the unanimous voice of the country and comrades of the wounded God pity the poor fellows who fell wounded at the attack on Moroei's Mountain on the 5th April And now for what took place the following morning. Outside of the tent (mind the only tent), was erected a sod bank (formed of wet soda fresh dag), about seven feet long by five wide, and about four feet six inches high, over which was thrown a blanket or so this was the amputating table." The first to be laid upon it was poor Scott, whose arm was cut off above the shell-wound. Then came poor Martingale, whose leg was cut off below the thigh. After his leg was amputated he was carried into the mud hut, and laid down beside poor Scott. Twenty minutes afterwards, poor Martingale's body was carried out, and laid alongside of poor Pasky's body, who had died from the effects of his wound and during the afternoon the two bodies were conveyed, by sorrowing comrades, to their last resting place. Anyone witnessing the above melancholy treatment, must shudder, and hope it may never be his lot to be wounded. The wounded who were considered out of imminent danger, were carried eighteen miles to the hospital at Thomas's camp. The poor, much-abused CM.R. were told off to carry the wounded men (5), while there are about 2000 Basutos here doing nothing whatever"
New Zealand Herald > 25 June 1879 > Page 6 >
Last edited by littlehand on Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:06 am; edited 1 time in total
I have a medal too TROOPER . H.B. LEONARD. 3rd CAPE MOUNTED YEOMANRY....Mortally wounded at Morosi's stronghold 5 / 6 / 1879...which was a V.C action.
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Subject: Morosi's Mtn Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:37 am
Hi Towerboy . I have a couple of Medals to the CMY , one to the 2nd CMY & the other to the 3rd CMY both with the 1879 Clasp . I have no idea if they were there during the attacks but having the clasp I suppose ( hope ) they were ! . Cheers 90th.
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Subject: Re: Morosi's Mountain Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:34 am
Has anyone got further information on "Martingale"