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PostSubject: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyTue Mar 26, 2013 12:28 pm

Hi all

But do, Why attacking in the third column in priority?

Victory of the kind of Isandhlwana on the first or fourth column would have the same effect, right?

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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyTue Mar 26, 2013 9:01 pm

Possibly because the commander of the British forces was with the third column.
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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyTue Mar 26, 2013 9:51 pm

From memory 24th is correct , Ceteswayo had an idea or was informed that Chelmesford and his staff were in the 3rd Column
and he thought it was also the most dangerous of the 5 Columns .
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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyWed Mar 27, 2013 6:21 am

All columns were dangerous.

And given the speed or they moved, none of these columns were priority ...

Personally, I would have launched the army on the lowest of these columns ...
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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyWed Mar 27, 2013 8:10 am

Quote :
All columns were dangerous
Correct!!

We were answering the original question.?
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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyWed Mar 27, 2013 9:00 am

And in your opinion what column would have been easier to destroy ? For me it is the first, because if LC had not detached some of his troops of the camp of Isandhlwana,the Zulu would have been more miseries at Isandhlwana ...
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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyWed Mar 27, 2013 10:31 am

Rascal your question initialy was why did they attack the third column , we told you why ! . He had to attack the biggest column in an attempt to make the british think twice about invading his land , by knocking over the strongest column and the staff with it , he thought
he may not have had a war to deal with . He didnt understand the mentality of Victorian England , he was alaways going to be done one way or another .
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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyWed Mar 27, 2013 10:46 am

Marsupial, I meant that attacking first column losses would have been less severe and the psychological effect identical , right ?

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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyWed Mar 27, 2013 10:52 am

Rascal .
No , it wouldnt be identical , because number 1 column wasnt the largest or strongest , I told you why he attacked the number
3 column . He did so because he wanted to attack the column he thought posed the biggest problems , and number 3 was certainly
his way or so he thought of making a statement to the British .
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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyWed Mar 27, 2013 11:23 am

marsupial

Why the third column would have asked more problems?

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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyWed Mar 27, 2013 6:09 pm

Hi Rascal.
Because it was the largest and strongest and had Chelmesford with it , also because it was the Column I think that was actually taking the direct route toward Ulundi. Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyThu Mar 28, 2013 6:29 am

Hi Marsupial

Well, well very interesting if we knew exactly how many kms was Ulundi of each column, the first day of the offensive ...

LC was necessarily expected to arrive about a particular day in Ulundi, he had a plan of invasion necessarily well established for the first invasion...

Eg: The columns 1 and 4 should they join the 3rd column somewhere before Ulundi?

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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyThu Mar 28, 2013 7:59 am

Hi Rascal .
Yes , I think that was the plan that number 1 and Number 4 would meet with number 3 at a certain destination or day before the battle of Ulundi .
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PostSubject: Re: Why attacking in the third column in priority ?    Why attacking in the third column in priority ? EmptyThu Mar 28, 2013 8:30 am

Hi Marsupial

It's weird, that there is nothing of writed on the original plan of LC for the first invasion ...I think LC had no invasion plan :p;:

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:p;: :p;: :p;: :p;:
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