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PostSubject: photo of lord chelmsford and staff   photo of lord chelmsford and staff EmptyFri Jun 21, 2013 7:18 pm

i remember seeing a photograph of lord chelmsford and his staff , taken in pietmaritzurg december 1878?
does anone know of this photo?

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PostSubject: Re: photo of lord chelmsford and staff   photo of lord chelmsford and staff EmptyFri Jun 21, 2013 7:37 pm

Its in the book Washing of the spears by Donald Morris, it shows

Matthew Gosset
Berkeley Milne
H. J. F. Campbell
Lord Chelmsford
John Crealock


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PostSubject: Re: photo of lord chelmsford and staff   photo of lord chelmsford and staff EmptyFri Jun 21, 2013 9:17 pm

ah i knew id seen the picture in question somewhere!.. although since moving house i cant find my copy of washing of the spears.
do any forum members have a copy of the photo?
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PostSubject: Re: photo of lord chelmsford and staff   photo of lord chelmsford and staff EmptySat Jun 22, 2013 1:50 am

I think Morris, or whoever named the officers in the photo of Lord Chelmsford’s staff, was in error about the naval officer seated on the far left.   I believe this is Commodore (later Rear-Admiral) Francis W. Sullivan.  My belief is based on 3 points.  Number 1 – As a Commodore, Sullivan would be the most likely naval officer to be on Chelmsford’s Staff.   Sullivan also is known to have travelled to Pietermaritzburg to confer with Chelmsford in August, 1878 and again in November, 1878, and finally from 31 January to 3 February, 1879.  Number 2 – Commander H. J. F. Campbell was in command of the Naval Brigade contingent from HMS Active, and was busy at the Lower Tugela overseeing the transport of Pearson’s Column across the river, and accompanying Pearson to Fort Eshowe.  Number 3 – The Killie Campbell Library had that same photograph in their collection, and the naval officers are given as Lieutenant Milne and Captain Sullivan.  Additionally in photographs taken of Commander Campbell, before and after Eshowe, he has a beard which the naval officer in the photo of Lord Chelmsford’s Staff does not have.
 
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