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![Neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ! Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ! Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:36 am | |
| Hi all The 22/01/79 ,or were some of the guys of the companies A-C-E-F and H of the 1/24, which were neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ? Cheers Pascal the |
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![Neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ! Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ! Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:56 pm | |
| The 22 January 1879, few of the men of the A-C-E-F and H of the 1/24 were in isolated spots here and there like the General Depot at Pietermaritzburg, Helpmekaar ... But how much ? Cheers Pascal the |
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![Neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ! Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ! Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:56 pm | |
| Hi Pascal If you go to the Regimental Museum website - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Click on - research, then fact sheets, then 24th (2nd Warwickshire), then Anglo-Zulu war and download the fact sheet - page 4 gives you the location of each of the companies of 1/24th and 2/24th on 22 January 1879. Soldiers at Helpmekaar and Rorke's Drift received the 1879 clasp to their campaign medal. Those at PMB and at Pondoland did not. I trust that helps. |
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![Neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ! Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ! Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:22 pm | |
| Thank you
But the page 4 gives me the location of each of the companies of 1/24th and 2/24th on 22 January 1879 ,including the smaller detachments part of the A-C-E-F and H of the 1/24 in isolated spots outside the zululand ? |
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| Hi Pascal,
As far as I am aware there is no pay & muster roll which exists that details where each soldier of the 24th was on 22 January. Certainly, there were (1/24th) soldiers other than B Coy 2/24th at Rorke's Drift as it was the column forward hospital, a few may have been left at Greytown and at PMB (sickness, duty or in prison) - and of course a number served with the Mounted Infantry - as these appear on separate pay & muster rolls. Julian Whybra has researched the Mounted infantry men from 24th. What we have to do is to go through the 2,772 names on the medal roll covering both battalions and see whether there are men that we cannot confirm their location on that date. It would take some time. |
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![Neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ! Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Neither in zululand or at Rorke's Drift ! Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:42 am | |
| Hi Kenny The exact number of men of each of the three companies of 1/24 th that were not in zululand the January 22, 1879 it is known ? Cheers Pascal the |
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| Pascal
As I said you would need to trawl through the medal roll of 1/24th and identify those without the '1879 clasp' or 'no clasp' (ignoring those who came out with later drafts - there are pay & muster rolls for the Clyde draft [1 March 1879], but there were other later drafts). Then those remaining with no '1879 clasp' but awarded the '1877-78 clasp' were probably in Pondoland with old B Coy 1/24th. Then those with 'no clasp' probably remained in PMB. There many inaccuracies in the medal roll. And of course you have to take into account those that died of disease and those drafted home at the end of their service before 22 January 1879.
It is very time consuming research. And of course most people contributing to this site would never go to this level of detail - this is why the arguments surrounding where David Jenkins was on 22 January 1879 posted on this forum are by and large based on superficial knowledge and quoting under researched modern publications. So we have to wait and see what Julian Whybra produces. |
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