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PostSubject: Ethnic % in the white colonial troops .   Ethnic % in the white colonial troops . EmptyTue Dec 17, 2013 3:18 pm

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For the U.S. Army that faces Native Americans between 1850 and 1890 have had indications in % of the officers, NCO's and soldiers from their origins, American or for each European nations, as a % of Americans, as a % of Irish, as a % of German ect ...

This kind of% the for each nationality in the white colonial troops Involved in the Zulu war existed ? ...

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Hi Rascal .
I can't give you an official % of Europeans who served in the Colonial forces as Officers and NCO'S but it would be very high .
I've read that many of the NCO's in the Colonial Regiments were foreigners who were enlisted as they couldnt get anyone else to do so .
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PostSubject: Re: Ethnic % in the white colonial troops .   Ethnic % in the white colonial troops . EmptyWed Dec 18, 2013 5:43 am

Hi Giant Marsupial

Thank you anyway ...

Yes, it reminds me of the U.S. Army or the Foreign Legion during the same period in 1879 ...

It seems that there was more in the units of Transvall and they were paid less than the men in the Natal units ? Why??

It is a pity that nobody owns the indications, it would have been interesting ...

There must be a lot of whites born in South Africa in the Natal units ...

And perhaps, than other formed ethnic units ...

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Hi Rascal .
I seem to remember reading a while back that the majority of the troops with Custer and his 7th Cavalry when it was defeated
at The Little Big Horn on June 25 ? 1876 were either mostly Irish or Italian with some Swedes and British as well , one of his trumpeter's , Martini ( I think that was his name ? ) survived , as he was sent by Custer to find Reno from memory , spoke very little english !!  Rolling Eyes 
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Hi giant marsupial

In the U.S. Army they were all nations of europe + Canada and Australia... Wink 

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PostSubject: Re: Ethnic % in the white colonial troops .   Ethnic % in the white colonial troops . EmptyThu Dec 19, 2013 6:35 pm

Pascal,

Do have Norris-Newman's book?

If so look at the casualty rolls for Hlobane in Appendix G.

Germans; Frenchmen; a Hollander & a Norwegian - foreign enough for you?

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Hi JY .
There was an Australian , one that I know of who was KIA Hlobane , Archibald Stewart , from Sth Aust , I've posted here the details of his death , he was , from memory , wounded , then thrown over the edge of the mountain as was witnessed by others
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John et Gary

Not I do not know this book but I read somewhere that the Frontier Light Horse and Weatherley's Border Horses incorporated some French because"Loulou", was to see them in a hospital (this was posted on this forum, but where this?) because they were survivors of Hlobane and Kambula ...

I also know that Bromhead was born in Versailles and the two Degacher brothers were Half-French ...

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PostSubject: Ethnic % Of the White Colonial Troops    Ethnic % in the white colonial troops . EmptyFri Dec 20, 2013 8:29 am

Hi Rascal .
The Charles Norris Newman book is titled ' In Zululand With The British Throughout The War Of 1879 ' . I dont know if it was printed in French , but I think its an excellent book , well worth having  Very Happy   Merry Christmas 
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My dear friend, if it is not French, it does not bother me, but before you buy a book you have to be certain that you'll find in what you are looking for  Wink Merry Christmas 
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Dailleurs there is only one book in French on the Zulu war and it seems he is archi-zero ... Very Happy Merry Christmas 

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Hi Rascal .
I was reading a Keith Smith book yesterday and he stated that the NNC were supposed to be 100 men per company ,
In command was 1 Capt , 2 Lt's , 3 Sgt's & 3 Cpls , all to be white personal .
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