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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: The Graphic Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:28 am | |
| Very happy , I stumbled across a bound copy containing editions of ' The Graphic ' newspapers from Dec 1878 - June 1879 , for the Princely sum of 87 GBP's , found a couple of other sets yesterday where Amazon wanted 1,000 + GBP's ! . Woo Hooo . 90th |
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:52 am | |
| Well done mate! A good price.
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:46 pm | |
| Yes Gary..great result!, i envy you all those happy hours going through it..  xhosa |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:41 am | |
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SergioD

Posts : 401 Join date : 2012-03-27 Age : 60 Location : London/Herts
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:01 am | |
| great result and also stopping it being broken up and sold as individual pages as is the norm!! |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:06 am | |
| Hi Sergio Yes Mate that's right , very hard to find them bound in bulk editions nowadays . 90th |
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:16 pm | |
| Stanford's Popular Map of the British Possessions in South Africa published on 17 February 1879 just three weeks after Isandhlwana. Stanford's was the premier map publisher and retailer at the time and continues to be so today but now in Long Acre, London. Interesting to note the range of SA maps they produced at the time, with the latest in preparation showing the disputed boundary changes in Zululand. Would love to come across the huge four sheet map of the Colony of Natal that is listed - never seen one. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Steve |
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:24 pm | |
| Like buses, old maps seem to all arrive at once! This one was sold in W H Smith at the time for the grand price of sixpence. Published on 11 January 1879 it shows the three columns poised to invade. Produced by Bartholomews for Smiths and available at all railway stations - just think how many that was in 1879. Very pleased to get it as these flimsy paper versions rarely survive. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Steve |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:04 pm | |
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barry

Posts : 947 Join date : 2011-10-21 Location : Algoa Bay
 | Subject: War map Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:38 pm | |
| Hi Steve,
Indeed,..... a VERY nice find. What a piece of Africana !! Looking at the detail however I am very amused at the place called New Scotland to the west of Swaziland. Their idea of the Zulu coastline then seems very skewed. If anything like this map was used to navigate poor HMS Tenedos up the coast, there is no wonder that she came ashore and lost her bottom. I see too a major waterway with large opening to the sea to the north of St Lucia lake, which is not there now and neither was it then.
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:32 pm | |
| Hi Barry It's interesting to compare some of the commercial maps of the time. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Left is the Smiths map of 1879, then Jepp's map of 1877, Wyld's map of 1879 and Stanford's of 1879. I suspect that Jepp's is the most accurate but they are all reasonably consistent, as you would expect by this date. Let's hope HMS Tenedos and her sister ships had the benefit of Admiralty charts though! New Scotland also appears on an Intelligence Branch map of 1881. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Steve |
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:13 pm | |
| Nice 1939 first edition with dust jacket. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Steve |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:22 pm | |
| Good one Steve 90th |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:45 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Robinson includes a good description of the panic which ensued after the ' Thunderclap ' ( his word ) to describe the news of Isandhlwana. |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:18 am | |
| Good Stuff Les . 90th |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:28 pm | |
| Hey Gary.. |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:37 pm | |
| I collect old book's on VC's, They always seem to contain Zulu War VC's, here's a few of them.. worth collecting i think. all are still available on various book sites, but can now be quite pricey, i'm so glad i bought mine many years ago when prices were very reasonable. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:40 pm | |
| I would not hazard a guess what rusteze paid for that dj. |
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:31 am | |
| Normally it takes a crowbar to prise open my wallet - or so my wife says!
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:51 am | |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:27 pm | |
| Gary..  .. this arrived this morning, looks very interesting, looking forward to reading it. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:06 pm | |
| Hi Les Is she a fictional character , I think I do remember reading of this somewhere ? . I picked up the book '' Paulina Dlamini ; Servant Of Two Kings ' it was compiled by Heinrich Filter translated and edited by S Bourquin . She was a servant to Ceteswayo before , during and after the AZW , she becomes a Christian and then serves God , I haven't read it yet , its on a large pile to be read ! . Hope you are well, 8 days to go ! . 90th |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:30 pm | |
| Hiya Gary, no she was a real person, and her story was very nearly lost forever..although her great granddaughter is a journalist it was for her like pulling reluctant teeth drawing the story from various family members. but the story is told in first person, an extract below. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Yeah mate i enjoyed reading Paulina's story, it just adds another layer of perspective and dimension especially coming from a female in a male dominated society. Only seven days now Gary, you will soon be walking the places you have come to love good on ya. cheers xhosa |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:27 am | |
| Thanks Les , much appreciated , I'll look for it in SA or when I get back , I may have a weight issue ( one of our mountains is missing ! ) hahahahahahaha . Down 7 days now , Barry please tell me there is no more Cyclonic weather on the radar ?? . 90th |
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wentworth
Posts : 23 Join date : 2013-04-30
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:03 pm | |
| Hi there. Wyld,s Military Map is very interesting. It only has one battle marked with the usual crossed swords. That is the battle at Insandusana, January 22nd. I imagine that this map was one of the first to be produced following the disaster. |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:02 am | |
| Hi Wentworth That's strange , as the Battle at Nyezane was a few hours before isandlwana , it started about 8am , and lets not forget Rorke's Drift it was also on the same day and into the next day . I cant see a reason why the Wyld map doesn't include the other battles ? . 9oth |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:34 am | |
| The Wylds map series has iSandlwana as Number 2. 90th Your heading into high 20s temp Gary. Very humid, overcast with a small amount of rain. Pretty much average for the time of year mate.
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:59 am | |
| Hi Frank IK and his 17 leave London tomorrow I go Kambula Day , I'll meet up with them at the Lodge on April 2 , they leave on the 5th , then I have Paul Naish to ferry me around to here , there , and everywhere , till he drops me back in Durban for the flight out on April17 . Hopefully most if not all the rain has fallen ? lollllllll. 90th |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed May 03, 2017 12:44 pm | |
| Our brave allies the Swazi's.. taken in the early 20th century. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]There is a wealth of material out there, i am pleased with the two books below, they are from the library of Prof Huw Jones..Hilda Kuper studied the Swazi in depth in the 1930's and 40's.. included in the book's are personal cards and letters. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Sat May 06, 2017 7:38 pm | |
| I could'nt leave it there at that price. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Sun May 07, 2017 3:25 am | |
| Well done Les , they can be expensive at times . 90th |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Sun May 07, 2017 2:41 pm | |
| Yeah, hiya mate.  i will find it a new home,glad your trip was good, and thanks for the info.  xhosa |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed May 17, 2017 12:22 pm | |
| Today I have had the pleasure of doing the ultimate 'Adding to the Library'. I took delivery of the Rob Gerrard Collection. It was quite sad looking through his books and seeing the various notes from clients he had guided around the battlefield. It again brought home to me just what a gifted and beautifull man he really was. Without doubt his presence on the tours will be sadly missed. I personally will take great pleasure in reading the various footnotes and comments he has penciled in to record his view and at times disdain. Just seeing the coffee ring stains on top of one of the books seemed to bring a sense of normality to his life. I'm really very lucky to have acquired a portion of Robs life and thoughts. |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed May 17, 2017 2:58 pm | |
| Excellent Frank.. they have found a good home. his collection is in safe hands. i am of course full of envy..but content!. |
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed May 17, 2017 3:21 pm | |
| Well done Frank. Very appropriate.
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Thu May 18, 2017 12:45 pm | |
| Nice pick up Frank , but I heard a lot of the rarer books were taken by his Sister Sally ? 90th |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Thu May 18, 2017 1:49 pm | |
| Hi Gary I got to pick and choose and really only left out the more modern L and Q and Snook. But the first editions, C T Binns and Elliot etc I have and again the rarer Red Book and RD by those who were there etc. Happy with the 20 odd I got. As I mentioned yesterday there are a lot of notes in the books, typically forthright Rob notes. They shall remain private.
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Thu May 18, 2017 1:55 pm | |
| I'd like to know what Sally took with her  . Well done in any case , and I agree , his notes should remain private . 90th |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Thu May 18, 2017 2:01 pm | |
| I'm pretty sure a few of the books did go with her but I have a feeling it was those with dedications. I know he had a couple of 'Royal' signatures and words of praise. The very definite one missing was the CT Atkinson regimental history. |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Thu May 18, 2017 2:56 pm | |
| Still a very good starter pack, i'm in touch with Jonathan, he just had some very bad new's, my thoughts are with him, i gave my spare copy of the Atkinson away a few months ago to a very very nice guy. |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Thu May 18, 2017 3:15 pm | |
| I heard about his dad. Sad news indeed |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon May 22, 2017 10:34 pm | |
| I seem to be getting further and further from the AZW. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Tue May 23, 2017 4:40 am | |
| Yes Les I seem to be doing the same thing , I've purchased a couple of books on the sinking of HMS Birkenhead in 1853 from memory , haven't read them yet , but once I finish Bengough's book... think I'll read those two ! 90th |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 23, 2017 6:33 am | |
| The Birkenhead sunk of Hermanus a few miles up the coast from Cape Town. Theres a Hotel by the same name close by. I seem to recall it was the Birkenhead sinking that originated the tradition of Women and Children first. |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:43 pm | |
| Cost me 2 quid.. 1878, usual problem with un-cut pages. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:42 pm | |
| Cheers Gary, there so fragile i dare not mess with them. This one below gives a nice account from the rank's. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:41 am | |
| Hi Les I've got the Guthrie Saga and read it , unfortunately he becomes ill and his Diary misses the good bits from memory while he's unfit for duty ! . Interesting read all the same . 90th |
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