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John Young

Posts : 3008 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 67 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:50 pm | |
| Further to the above the December 2015 exchange rate was much more in our favour.
Even with today's rates we are still paying £10's above the odds for the privilege of not receiving a book.
Not a happy bunny at all.
Sergio had posted Casement's advert on 1st December, 2015 where it clearly states 500.
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:47 pm | |
| Methinks the messenger has just been shot.............................. |
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John Young

Posts : 3008 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 67 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:01 pm | |
| Frank,
Someone needs to be and I'm not venting my anger at you, just voicing my opinions out loud!
Like the Light Brigade someone has blundered.. I diagnose a severe case of left hand/right hand syndrome between the publishers and the U.K. distributors
John Y. |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:14 pm | |
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John Young

Posts : 3008 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 67 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:25 pm | |
| Frank, Bromhead syndrome... John Y. |
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:33 pm | |
| To be honest, I was not overly surprised at the delay. That's not to excuse it, but I think it is probably par for the course for getting things delivered from that part of the world. Thanks Frank for your efforts to expedite matters I am mildly encouraged. There seems to be a penchant for so called limited editions in SA of not particularly distinguished volumes to create an artificial cachet - Soldier Artist, Road to Ulundi, Brenthurst volumes etc. etc. Nice books but not that special really. As for "signed by the author" I don't think that will amount to a hill of beans in the vast majority of cases either. Buy a book for its contents not for its costume jewellery. And don't let the delays in delivery raise your blood pressure - we most of us can't afford the risk!
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John Young

Posts : 3008 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 67 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:05 pm | |
| Steve, I have got to agree with you, as I had a similar problem with Soldier Artist..., the World and his wife had theirs and mine hadn't appeared, despite contributing to the text! I was told on several occasions that I had already the book sent. Some months down the line a copy eventually arrived. Like you I appreciate Frank's efforts, he has done a sterling job on our behalf to endeavour to move things along. Keep taking the tablets in view of Steve's comment. I imagine there a number of contributing factors; the convoy carrying the books was ambushed; a lack of screwdrivers with packing crates etc & etc... John Y.
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:16 pm | |
| Call that a screwdriver. This is a screwdriver! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Steve |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:05 pm | |
| Ive just exchanged an e mail with Ken and informed him of the feelings prevalent. Hopefully he will be able to shed some light on the matter. But bottom line for me is that its an excellent book and poses some interesting questions. Cheers
Oh yes and the fact that ive actually got it...........dum de dum |
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:11 pm | |
| Now let me think, who was it that said he hated smug?
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:14 pm | |
| Steve I mentioned earlier that Ive just discovered an interesting little book by Ron Lock, Ive ordered it. Have a look back in the posts. Cheers PS Smug, moi |
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John Young

Posts : 3008 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 67 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:24 pm | |
| 90th,
To finance your trip buy lots of Ken's books in KZN and jump on a plane bound for Heathrow.
Sell them out of your suitcase and hop on the next QANTAS out with Skippy, and that's your trip paid for.
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:33 pm | |
| It would seem that we all need to take a reality check!. yeah thanks Frank, more than helpful..i was more than happy to receive the Lloyd, especially with the David Rattray connection, it is a beautifully produced work and it more than compliments Life on active service..as for the Brenthurst collection, i could not imagine not having the Clarke's, i remember how thrilled i was reading the letters.. Kens work i suspect is an overpriced coffee table book..and i have to say i don't mean that in a disparaging way, Franks early indications have really whetted my appetite. Hmm, books signed by the author, i seem to have a lot of them! they do seem to hold a certain cachet depen -ing on the book/ author.. |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:12 pm | |
| And by the way..as said i ordered and prepaid for The Road to Ulundi.. and if the first run is sold out Casement had better not even try to palm me off with a 1st ed...second imp. that would make me extremely angry. |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:26 pm | |
| Hi Les I wouldn't describe it as a coffee table book, it really is a fascinating piece of work by Ken. Overpriced? That's really in the eye of the beholder, I personally was happy to pay the price, and a great part of that for me was supporting a local author/historian. Ive tried to get more information on numbers etc but at present Im waiting for people to reply. I believe from what Ive gleaned that it is definitely a limited edition and quite possibly it will be in the nature of 1000.But that's not 100% confirmed. Possible Im different but I do enjoy collecting first editions and in particular signed first editions, but that's just me. The Road to Ulundi, revisited, stands on its own in terms of content.
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:41 pm | |
| Evening Frank
I will take a look at the Ron Lock book. The following popped up recently - looks quite interesting. "Last Outpost on the Zulu Frontier" Graham Dominy Published by University of Illinois Press, 2016. All about Fort Napier. Have you come across it?
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:40 pm | |
| I personally was happy to pay the price, and a great part of that for me was supporting a local author/historian. from Frank.
Hiya Frank, all you say is fair enough, i guess i'm just a bit peed off with the lack of even adequate communication from Casement, this is a specialized work in a niche market and i'm listening carefully to what you have to say about this. i do believe supporting authors Historians and Researchers is very important, especially given the hard work and single minded determination i have witnessed from some over the years..of course i will compare and contrast Kens work with Brown..that will be instructive to me and also a pleasure i'm sure. if you say it stands alone, that's good enough. |
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:08 am | |
| It's a lot more expensive out here from what I've seen , over 90 GBP's , and that isn't including postage . 90th |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:43 am | |
| Steve I looked through a copy when I was in PMB a few months back. Although a well put together account it didn't really excite me into buying.
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:02 pm | |
| Ok Im reliably informed from an impeccable yet unnamed source that the book is being printed in small runs, hence the quick sell out. So whilst it is the second print run it still is the first impression. Hope that makes sense. The batch has been dispatched by courier and will be in England in a matter of days so provided there are no rail strikes, airline go slows or the like I would advise you lot start to nag the hell out of the distributor for some service. As an aside to that distributor, they in turn don't order the book from the publisher until they have a sufficient amount of pre orders to justify it hence the delay so Casement must now perform : "Nothing can be fairer, or more noble, than the holy fervour of true zeal." Moliere.
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John Young

Posts : 3008 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 67 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:23 pm | |
| Well done Frank,
Thanks for your intervention.
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:34 pm | |
| The invoice is in the post |
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:35 pm | |
| That's Ok. It will never get here.
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:48 pm | |
| Considering the SA post office is virtually bankrupt and in serious danger of closing down, your probably correct Steve. BUT, I do know a rather fleet footed young man that carries mail in a forked stick so beware. |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:55 pm | |
| Yeah Frank, nice one..just given Casement a hurry the .... up.. got to say i have personally no problem with mail from RSA, items have always turned up, i have had no missing items, and iv'e have many dozens of items over the years..
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90th

Posts : 10752 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Adding to the Library Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:14 pm | |
| Hi All As Les said , I also haven't had a problem with the SA post office ( sometimes takes a while to get here ! ) so far , so good as they say , I've only had to worry about 8 or so items getting here , I know what will happen the next time I order something , it wont bloody arrive .......at all ! ...ever ! 90th |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon May 09, 2016 4:07 pm | |
| I bought a copy of this when it first came out..signed by Harfords grand daughter and the Paynes.. had quite a few problems getting the ltd ed num, finally Emma sorted it out..its 39 by the way.. so looking at the link below i see it can now be had for £14.00..and from the address i know who is getting rid of the excess stock. so i have bought another, no doubt a reprint, but for £14.00 i could not help myself, i will use it as a ref copy, the original is wrapped in cotton wool in a box. cheap as chips guys. and a wonderfully produced book.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272213063757?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 10, 2016 7:19 am | |
| Good deal Les, I paid around 50 GBP. Number 28. Did you get the copies of the latest info from Ken?
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John Young

Posts : 3008 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 67 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 10, 2016 8:00 am | |
| Frank,
If I can come in there I will e-mail you and update from this side.
John Y. |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 10, 2016 8:55 am | |
| Steve Have a chat with Les and JohnY, could be beneficial to your bank account. John Ive responded. Alternatly of course I could bring three copies with me to the UK next month and disperse them.
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John Young

Posts : 3008 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 67 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 10, 2016 9:12 am | |
| Frank,
With the exchange rate between Sterling and the Rand, don't just bring three books pack a case with them, as we are paying £14 over the SA purchase price. Well some of us are...
John Y.
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 10, 2016 9:18 am | |
| Sorry cases are full of half price Kruger Rands |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 10, 2016 9:22 am | |
| And a pebble from Fugitives drift that I intend to place on Sam Wassalls grave. |
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littlehand

Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 54 Location : Down South.
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 10, 2016 11:33 am | |
| - Frank Allewell wrote:
- And a pebble from Fugitives drift that I intend to place on Sam Wassalls grave.
What would this signify to you! |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 10, 2016 12:08 pm | |
| LH In my younger days we lived in Laburnum Crescent in Barrow. My bedroom window overlooked the cemetery and in particular grave 1952. My dad on many occasion pointed out a grave to me visible from my window and told the story of when he was young listening to the man buried there telling of his adventures in Africa. It was the first time I ever heard of the Zulus, years later I swore that I would revisit someday after seeing the place he won his VC. I have seen Fugitives Drift many times but on my first visit with David Rattray picked up a pebble. So many many years later I shall be in Barrow and do what I promised to myself. Silly and maudlin I know, but still important to me.
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 10, 2016 12:32 pm | |
| Afternoon Frank.as JY has updated you i have little to add, apart from the fact that Andy who is the face from Casement has proved to be such a nice helpful guy, but its very apparent that he is ' dancing in the dark '. this saga is in danger of giving the Mousetrap a run for its money.. i am currently in patient waiting mode, truth be told i'm off and running with the next and then the next thing, so Kens book will turn up when it does..
I understand the significance of the pebble, you do him honour and complete the circle, not silly or maudlin. |
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Tue May 10, 2016 5:06 pm | |
| Thanks for the heads-up Frank. Pebble is a nice gesture.
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Fri May 13, 2016 1:43 pm | |
| Steve Your not on the e mail list so FYI, Ken has had a meeting this morning with the 30 Degree South MD, the Road to Ulundi Revisited is scheduled for arrival in the UK mid June.
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rusteze

Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Fri May 13, 2016 4:28 pm | |
| Good news Frank. Am also up to speed on the financial front.
Many thanks. Steve |
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Fri May 13, 2016 7:45 pm | |
| THE RUIN of many a poor bibliophile, the Abe- books website, currently offers for sale three copies of The Road to Ulundi featuring the watercolour sketches of John North Crealock made during the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879. The cheapest will set you back around R3 500 plus post age; the most expensive is going for R5 400. As those prices indicate, the book, published in 1969 with a print run of 1 000, has become a valuable item of Africana. Now Durban-based histor ian and battlefield guide Ken Gillings has produced Road to Ulundi Revisited, both homage and a companion update to the original. Printed in a signed limited edition of 1 000 and utilising a “then and now” format, Gillings has matched his con temporary photos to Crealock’s original watercolours. In the late 1960s when The Road to Ulundi was published by the University of Natal Press (now the University of KwaZulu-Natal Press), it repre sented a pioneering venture. “Interest in the Anglo-Zulu War was limited by-and-large to small groups of military his tory enthusiasts,” said Gillings. “I used to have to apply for a permit to visit some of the sites because they were in Bantu areas, and that probably discouraged many people from visiting them. Isandlwana was an exception because it was a national monument, but one was not allowed to stay over night in the area.” Nor was there much liter ature available on the subject. CT Binns had published his outstanding The Last Zulu King in 1963. In 1964, the film Zulu resulted in increased interest in the war in Britain, and then, in 1966, an American, Donald R Morris, produced the first definitive history of the Anglo-Zulu War, The Washing of the Spears. Since then the war has fuelled a niche literary indus try, while the battlefield sites have become major tourist attractions for both local and international visitors. “Now there are dozens of publica tions available,” said Gillings. “Authors and historians such as Ron Lock, Ian Knight, Saul David, Jeff Guy, John Laband and Paul Thompson have unlocked many secrets about the war, and new material has made this aspect of South Afri ca’s history one of the most sought after among military historians all over the world.” Back in 1969 that was all to come, and the decision to publish The Road to Ulundi was a prescient one. The mod est credit on the book’s title page, “Edited and prepared for publication by RA Brown, MA, (Oxon.)”, indicates to whom that foresight belonged. Brown was the librarian at the University of Natal’s Pietermaritzburg campus from 1962 until 1973. Born in England in 1914, he came to South Africa shortly after gaining his master’s at Oxford to teach at Michael house. Brown’s family had South African connections – Lawrence G Green, the prolific author of popular anecdotal history books was a cousin. During World War II Brown served in the British Army, and after being demobbed returned to South Africa, taking the post of deputy librarian at Rhodes University prior to moving to Pietermaritzburg. After his retirement in 1973, Brown returned to England, where he died in 2002. Today Brown is remem bered with affection and admir ation by those who worked with him. “He was a truly cultured and well-educated man, with wide-ranging interests and an eye for opportunity,” said col league Colleen Vietzen. “In addition to his fore sight, Ron was a very hands-on man and made things happen. Among his passions was a deep interest in Natal history and social evolution, and he built up a useful Nataliana collec tion… He jumped at opportun ities to enhance the collection.” Another colleague, Natal settler authority Shelagh Spen cer, and her husband Brian became close friends of Brown and his wife Win. “Shelagh was aware of Ron’s interest in the Crealock drawings from his first learning about them,” said Brian Spencer. “And we all spent a mem orable weekend with George Buntting (a legendary expert on the war) driving from place to place where the sketches were done as Ron wanted better knowledge of the sites before the book was published.” In the introduction to The Road to Ulundi, Brown described how, in 1966, he had come across an article in the English newspaper, The Times, concerning the problems facing regimental museums which mentioned the Crealock album of watercolours in the Sherwood Foresters’ Museum at Nottingham Castle. Brown’s interest was imme diately piqued as he knew the regiment was a descendant of the 45th Foot, the first regi ment to be stationed in Natal in the mid-19th century. Brown travelled to Notting ham to look at the paintings, and the regimental authorities agreed to lend them to the Uni versity of Natal Library with a view to publication. The album consisted of 189 paintings and drawings of the Eastern Cape and Natal depicting “landscapes, camp sites and scenes, battlefields, military and civilian person alities”. Brown noted: “The artistic quality is good and the excel lent detail has been praised by botanists, geographers and his torians who recognise in them an authentic pictorial record.” The collection reflects the time Crealock was in South Africa as military secretary to Lord Chelmsford, commander of the British troops in South Africa. Born in 1836, Crealock had seen service in India during the Indian Mutiny Campaign of 1857 to 1858 and was men tioned in dispatches three times. Promoted to captain in 1859, he served in India until 1870. On his return to England, Crealock served as deputy assistant adjutant-general and later deputy assistant quarter master-general at Aldershot and was promoted to major in 1875. In 1878, Crealock was selected to accompany Chelms ford to southern Africa. At Chelmsford’s side, Crea lock, now a lieutenant-colonel, sketched his way through the Ninth Frontier War, followed by the war against the Zulus. He was present during the Isandlwana campaign – where a British force was all but annihilated by the Zulu army – as well as at the battle of Gingindlovu, where he was slightly wounded, and at the Battle of Ulundi that ended the war with a British victory. A good artist he may have been, but Crealock was prob ably a difficult personality. He was described by Sir Gar net Wolseley (who replaced Chelmsford) as an “arch-snob” and accused of “governing Chelmsford and keeping him in ignorance of all going on about him”. Wolseley concluded with the ultimate coup de grace: “He was not a gentleman.” How ever, it should be pointed out that Wolseley in his highly entertaining diaries rarely said anything good about any one other than himself. Crealock later commanded the 95th Regiment, and a subse quent regimental history was kinder than Wolseley: “There can have been few in the bat talion who did not feel they were better soldiers for hav ing known so progressive and appreciative a commanding officer.” Crealock died in 1895. After Crealock’s death, his paintings were given to the Regimental Museum in Nottingham Castle, where Brown subsequently selected 67 of the Natal scenes for publication. An eager purchaser of The Road to Ulundi on its appear ance in 1969 was a young Ken Gillings. “I bought a copy and drove to Pietermaritzburg from Durban to ask Ron Brown to autograph it,” said Gillings. “He was somewhat bemused; I don’t think many people had asked him to autograph their copy.” And so a book was signed and, unknowingly, a baton passed on. Gillings’s interest in the Victorian campaign was kindled at Westville Boys’ High School. “I had a history teacher named Ron Warner, who kept the class mesmerised with his teaching of South African his tory. He took us on our first battlefield tour in 1963 and I was hooked.” In 2010 it occurred to Gil lings “that matching the Creal ock sketches to photographs would make for a fascinating PowerPoint presentation”. “While it was a relatively simple matter to photograph the popular sites, such as Isandlwana and Rorke’s Drift, most of the other locations are off the beaten track. I started photographing those about four years ago.” With some help from his wife Heather. “She would hold the original book aloft as I tried to line up the sites in the middle of nowhere. Crealock rode with his artist’s materials in his sad dle-bag. “The British Army seldom had properly surveyed maps of wherever it was fighting, and so an important part of the duties of a junior officer was to be able to produce a good sketch map and panorama for his commanding officer.” The Road to Ulundi Revisited – The Zulu Sketches of an Art ist on the March: John North Crealock by Gillings is pub lished by 30° South Publishers. Acclaimed battlefield guide repackages history A classic of Anglo-Zulu War Africana featuring front-line sketches from a serving British officer has been revisited and republished with photographs of the actual sites as they are today, paying homage and giving an updated account, Stephen Coan reports HISTORIAN: Ken Gillings, author of Road to Ulundi revisited, at the monument on the site of the battlefield at Gingindlovu. Artist John North Crealock was wounded in the battle fought on April 2, 1879. INITIATOR: Ronald Arden Brown, editor and driver behind the publication of The Road to Ulundi, published in 1969. NEW TAKE: Road to Ulundi Revisited by Ken Gillings combines the original watercolour sketches by John North Crealock first published in The Road to Ulundi in 1969 with his own photographs and accompanying explanatory text. THEN AND NOW: The hill of Isandlwana drawn by John North Crealock contrasted with the scene today with monuments and memorial stone cairns scattered over the battlefield where a Zulu army all but annihilated a British force in 1879. |
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xhosa2000

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 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Fri May 13, 2016 8:12 pm | |
| The above is from the Star mon March 28th..review by Stephen Coan, the images are from the article, plus one of Crealock. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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xhosa2000

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 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Sun May 15, 2016 10:23 pm | |
| I know when the p is being well and truly taken.. AZW enthusiasts i'm sure.
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&tn=THE+ROAD+TO+ULUNDI |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon May 16, 2016 10:21 am | |
| I would agree Les, I know Chapter two, ive bought through them in the passed, but 100GBP on top ?
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John Young

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 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon May 16, 2016 11:29 am | |
| Frank,
Together with the postage, that works out to £50 more than the South African price, or in another words £30 less than the normal UK price.
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon May 16, 2016 12:11 pm | |
| Are you serious in saying you paid 130pounds? |
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John Young

Posts : 3008 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 67 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon May 16, 2016 12:41 pm | |
| Frank,
The U.K. price was £70 plus postage.
Whereas the SA rate was about £52 - £57 depending on the exchange rate, hence my comment.
For 'less' read more. Hands are working with the brain. That could due the debriefing notes about Sicko's recent visit I am in receipt of.
Sorry for the confusion.
John Y.
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon May 16, 2016 1:18 pm | |
| Afternoon, Frank, JY..well as i said, i'm now more than content to await Kens book, as i speak its on a freighter somewhere on the high sea's. Due to a bit of patient lobbying of Casement, the final price will come in at £35.00 gbp.in the blurb it says that the run is 1000..Printed in a signed limited edition of 1 000 and utilising a “then and now” format, Gillings has matched his con temporary photos to Crealock’s original watercolours.....that's it then in black and white, according to that,ALL copies are signed!..that remains to be seen.
Of course i wander as i always do..who! decides the prices.. as an example, i bought the Harford book pre ordered and fully signed by the authors and Harfords grand daughter Audrey..it cost £60.00, fair enough you might think, only to find a few months down the line that the same book could be had for £30.00.. less the signing ( which was optional in the first place) and so i reported last week that i ordered the same book for £14.00 thinking to myself that it must be a later printing, but no, its the ist ed, ist imp.. so obviously its left over stock, left kicking around..does that devalue my own signed first, well yes i think it must do..its a real minefield out there,choose carefully. lots of these books are privately published for what is still a niche market..but after saying all that, i'm really looking forward to having Ken's work, mainly based on your review Frank..it will find a good home. xhosa. |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 8435 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon May 16, 2016 1:32 pm | |
| Les \, like you I buy for the read, The lessor known/firsts/older I buy because Im a bloody horder and just love to have them. The newer firsts are always going to be a gamble in terms of value though, the only people that will give a firm opinion of that will be our great grandsons.
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xhosa2000

Posts : 1184 Join date : 2015-11-24
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon May 16, 2016 2:13 pm | |
| Yeah Frank, full agreement with that, hoarder..yep that's me!.but its getting ridiculous now, i will have to farm most of it out to a storage unit in the near future, i cant even open the bedroom windows now, her indoors is a saint..and i'm not even concerned with any value. i wont be around to see any of it being sold/ dumped whatever it turns out to be!. but like you, i cant turn down the next ' find' maybe i should of stuck to collecting something less bulky as a collection, like medals or photograph's. |
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John Young

Posts : 3008 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 67 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
 | Subject: Re: Adding to the Library Mon May 16, 2016 2:58 pm | |
| If I can chip in here there are some publications of late that are obsolutely dire.
Some have contributed nothing whatsoever to my knowledge, especially those which trot out the same old dross that has been refuted for decades. I will spare the authors their blushes, but I imagine that they will receive magnificent reviews from some. I imagine my co-authored effort will not be lauded in those self same circles.
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