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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyTue Jun 24, 2014 6:14 pm

Steve, you did well tracking down the Elliot!
i recall waiting a good while before i got mine,
and sad to say years later i still bought the
donovan one ( to keep it company  Sad  )

Yeah brenthurst are not cheap, i have stuck
at the Clarke trilogy for the mo. their are a
couple more in the vc mode..service trials and
tragedy's and deeds that should not pass away
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Latest. Interesting previous owner.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyWed Nov 26, 2014 6:37 pm

Latest find. A nice little first edition of Tomasson. With the Irregulars in the Transvaal and Zululand 1881.

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PostSubject: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyWed Nov 26, 2014 9:28 pm

Hi Steve
I have a hard cover reprint from DP &G Publishing , I thoroughly enjoyed it ! .
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyThu Nov 27, 2014 9:26 am

great find Rusteze - I need to get hold of your sources Suspect
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First find of 2015. Very pleased because I have been searching for quite a while.

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PostSubject: Adding to the library   Adding to the Library EmptyFri Jan 09, 2015 1:35 am

Hi Steve
Good get , You need to study mo I assume it's the First Edition ? , Springy will be envious , Shocked I'm not sure he has that First Edition . My copy of K.Smith's ' Dead was Everything ' finally arrived yesterday , I ordered it back on the 22nd Sep , surface mail does have its drawbacks , but I have a few others to get through so it didnt matter , I'm just relieved its finally here ! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyFri Jan 09, 2015 6:22 am

Well done Steve, certainly a find to be envious over. Its been on my wish list for a while, unfortunately the Rand exchange rate is virtually double what it should be so has tended to put purchases on the back burner for a while.
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http://www.antiquarianauctions.com/auctions/preview/page/all

Some totally overpriced books, and a few that have 'sold' before.

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Hi Springy
Certainly some overpriced , but get a load of the S.Clarke one ! , it's as cheap as I've ever seen You need to study mo . Then again it is an auction and there are no bids as yet ! Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyFri Jan 09, 2015 9:01 am

Yeah, Clarke will climb way up, it was on last time as was the illustrated Battlefields and a few others, Cory etc. But look at the Ashe and Wyatt Edgell, 1000 US????????????
As I said with the Rand rate as it is not a chance.

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Springy
I have the Ashe & Edgell albeit a reprint , there were a few errors if I remember correctly ? . Over the years , many facts have been unearthed by the decent researchers , which show some of the book to be factually incorrect . I dont know much about first editions but for the contents it certainly isnt worth a $1,000 USD ! No . In my humble opinion I suppose it's worth reading ,
but I wouldnt want to be paying much even for a re-print . Major Ashe was never in Zululand , Wyatt - Edgell sent his correspondence to Ashe , who was in the UK , Wyatt - Edgell 17th Lcrs was KIA at Ulundi Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyFri Jan 09, 2015 9:53 pm

Hi Gary/Frank

When copies of the Narrative come up they are invariably the reprint of 1907. As is this one (issued in a print run of 1500).

The proper first edition of 1881 was apparently suppressed by the government - now I wonder why?

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Yeah 1907, but looks in much better nick than most.
supressed...Hmmm. Suspect xhosa
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptySat Jan 31, 2015 12:59 pm

Two finds in a month is unusual for me. Quite pleased with this one.

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Nicely rebound and in great condition.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyFri Feb 27, 2015 8:49 pm

That's a book I would love to have! Well done Steve.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyMon Apr 13, 2015 5:48 pm

Story of the Zulus, Gibson,Pietermaritzberg, 1903.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyMon Apr 13, 2015 11:41 pm

Steve here's one you might be interested in !

http://www.peterharrington.co.uk/rare-books/africa-travel-exploration/report-of-the-stafford-house-south-african-aid-committee-zulu-war-1879/
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyTue Apr 14, 2015 12:27 am

Harrington's have had that in stock for some time and at that price I 'm not surprised! I won't fight you for it.

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PostSubject: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyTue Apr 14, 2015 1:11 am

Hi Steve
I picked up a photocopy of the Stafford House Report from the Australian War Memorial in Canberra , it didnt cost anything like the 2,000 on offer , although , it's obviously an extremely rare publication , one of which I've never seen for sale elsewhere , except from Harrington's . You need to study mo . The report is 31 pages , of which I havent read as yet , it's on the ' to read list ' , along with about 15 others at this stage ! .
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyWed Apr 15, 2015 11:57 am

I have the book, The Mounted Police of Natal, bought it at our local Arms Fair for $10 !! Missing the Frontis, but..... If anyone could send a copy I would be grateful.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyWed Apr 15, 2015 3:46 pm

Hi Nitro

Nice find. Here's the frontispiece with my compliments.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyWed Apr 15, 2015 4:56 pm

Here is the bargain of the year so far. I have a copy, so be quick and good luck!

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=15629129714&searchurl=kn%3Dzululand%26sortby%3D0

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PostSubject: Adding to the library    Adding to the Library EmptyThu Apr 16, 2015 8:48 am

Hi Steve
I have it , was the bargain price 130 GBP'S ? , which seems quite reasonable anyway ???? .
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyThu Apr 16, 2015 9:49 am

Hi Gary

No, it was £60! Hope someone on here got it.

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PostSubject: Adding to the library    Adding to the Library EmptyThu Apr 16, 2015 3:27 pm

Truly a great get , I doubt it's anyone from here ! , if it was I'm sure they would've been keen to share their joy !
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Its truely a grand book. 90th you know how jealous you get when someone gets a great medal or book.LOl no wonder they kept quiet.

PS did I tell you about the HMS active WIA group I picked up!!!
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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library EmptyFri Apr 17, 2015 1:17 am

Hi Sergio
How have you been ? , great to hear from you ! , and NO you haven't ! Shocked Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyTue Apr 21, 2015 4:20 pm

A mint Field Exercise Manual 1877 picked up from a bookshop in Canada.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyTue Apr 21, 2015 4:22 pm

what a great find !!

feeling very jealous right now!!
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Sergio / Steve
I agree with you Sergio , I've been after one for a while ! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyMon May 04, 2015 8:47 pm

Not a book, and not quite "our" war. But it is by one of "our" artists and location is relevant. "The Last Shot at Colenso" by Richard Caton-Woodville. A stonking good lithograph of a VC action to recover the guns. Not Redvers Buller's finest moment though.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyMon Jun 15, 2015 4:53 pm

Sir Charles Warren was a contemporary of Anthony Durnford in the RE. He was responsible for surveying the boundaries of the Transvaal. Durnford gets a number of mentions in the diary which I will post later.  Sir Charles Warren went on to be Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police at the time of the Jack the Ripper murders in London's East End. The following potted history and photograph comes from the Ripper Casebook website.
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WARREN, Charles

Born : Feb 17 1840.

Educated : Cheltenham, Sandhurst and Woolwich.

1857 : Joined the Royal Engineers.

1867 : Served in Palestine.

1870 : Returned to England.

1876-77 : Posted to Africa as Special Commissioner for Colonial Office.

1877-78 : Fought in Kaffir War during which he was severely wounded and promoted to the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel.

1880 : Returned to England.

1882 : Tracked down the murderers of Professor Edward Palmer's Expedition in Egypt. Was knighted.

1884 : In second expedition to relieve General Gordon at Khartoum.

1886 : Mar - Succeeded Edmund Henderson as Metropolitan Police Commissioner.

1888 : Nov 8 - Resigned as Commissioner.

1899-1902 : Fought in the Boer War.

1927 : Jan 26 - Died.

Warren never made any statements about who he thought the killer (Jack the Ripper) might be but in a report to the Home Office on Oct 17 1888 he wrote "I look upon this series of murders as unique in the history of our country."

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyFri Sep 04, 2015 9:21 am

Just picked up the full two volume set of Moodie. First edition 1888. Second one for the collection.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptySat Sep 05, 2015 12:39 pm

Well done Frank. I have always wondered whether "Moodie's Zulu War" (which is available as a reprint) is simply an extract from the original two volume set or whether it is a different text. Do you happen to know?

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptySat Sep 05, 2015 3:41 pm

Steve,

Moodie's Zulu War is taken from his earlier work 1879 work The History of the Battles and Adventures of the British, the Boers, and the Zulus... The 1888 two volume set is not brimming with Zulu War material, it is more of a prequel.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptySat Sep 05, 2015 9:12 pm

Thanks John. That explains it.

I thought there was not enough about the Zulu War in the 1888 volumes to support a separate publication. The titles of Moodie's 1879 and 1888 editions are sufficiently similar to make you think they are the same - but not so. I happen to know that Henry Hook had a copy of the 1888 edition in his small library - I wonder whether he thought he was buying the 1879 edition with much more about "his" war.  The similarity in the titles makes it quite likely I think. Not that he needed anybody to tell him what had happened of course!

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptySun Sep 06, 2015 4:55 pm

Hi Steve
I bought the 88 version because I have a first edition 79 and wanted to complete the set. Plus it was a good price. Would have had another publication as well if 90th hadn't pushed up the price to high. Mad
Im negotiating on a couple of other firsts that didn't get sold on the Auction.

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PostSubject: Adding to the library    Adding to the Library EmptySun Sep 06, 2015 10:59 pm

Hi Frank
Joker Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyMon Sep 07, 2015 10:04 am

So, which one were you fighting over?

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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library EmptyMon Sep 07, 2015 10:43 am

Hi Steve
Sonia Clarke's ' Invasion of Zululand ' I was trying to get one of the '' Special '' editions for a really good price , and was then going to sell my hardcover with Dust Jacket version . It opened at $ 50 USD , I gave up at $ 90 USD from memory Joker Joker
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyMon Sep 07, 2015 11:42 am

Fighting? Never ! Just jousting amicably Mad Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyMon Sep 07, 2015 11:43 am

I gave up at 120 US
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PostSubject: Adding to the library    Adding to the Library EmptyMon Sep 07, 2015 12:36 pm

Hi Frank / Steve
Amicable Jousting , I like that terminology ! . Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptySun Sep 13, 2015 4:53 pm

Here's a less common title from Moodie, "Southern Songs". It contains his poem Isandhlwane.

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Moodie's poem continues for six pages. Here are some more extracts:

     "Then comes the last - he drops from out the line
      Death rattles in his throat - he falls supine,
      Brave to the bone, with martial fever mad,
      Falls the "short service system" raw-boned lad,
      To arms untrained, no power within him lies,
       A martyr to a system bad he dies."

      " Here fell - hard fighting gainst their cruel lot -
        The sons of Shepstone, Moodie, and of Scott."

      " Fast fall the troops along the British line,
        Tho' many a black is cloven to the chine,
        Here Pulleine, Durnford, Anstey, and the rest,
        On honour's niche imprint their lasting creed,
        While Stuart Smith, the bravest of the brave,
        Sheds deathless glory o'er his looming grave,
        And scorning flight, stands to his precious charge,
        Nor leaves his guns in Zulu hands at large."

They knew how to write em in those days!

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyWed Oct 07, 2015 4:48 pm

Nice complete set of Zulu War Blue Books - in this case they're green!

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyWed Oct 07, 2015 5:33 pm

Where did you find them?
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyThu Oct 08, 2015 12:18 am

Ray

They are ex School of Oriental and African Studies library.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library EmptyThu Oct 08, 2015 12:55 am

well done Steve You need to study mo
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