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PostSubject: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyThu Nov 13, 2014 6:26 am

Hoping that one (or more) of our research fundis can help me on this one.

Corporal G (George ? ) Allewell 867. Nesbitts Horse.

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PostSubject: George Allewell    George Allewell EmptyThu Nov 13, 2014 7:34 am

Hi Springy
A relation ??? . I'm not home so I dont have much to rifle through , I checked the Forsyth Medal Roll , it only lists a Major R.A.Nesbitt , Medal with Clasp 77-78-79 . No other names on the Roll , which seems a little strange ? scratch scratch .
Sorry Mate .
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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyThu Nov 13, 2014 7:40 am

Morning Mate
Yep my Great Grand father. I know he fought in the Boer War and there are a couple of snippets that point him back to being in Natal in mid 1870s. Quite a soldier of fortune but info is scarce so v=im hopping Mr G etc will be able to help me build up the history. Its a personal crusade for a family member.

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PostSubject: George Allewell    George Allewell EmptyThu Nov 13, 2014 7:52 am

HIi Springy
I've heard of Nesbitt's Horse but I dont think it's a unit from the AZW ? , possibly more so one of the Boer Wars ?
I dont have the correct books here so cant have a proper look. Hopefully someone will kick in shortly and help out .
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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyThu Nov 13, 2014 9:37 am

Hi Springbok9

I have had a quick look (at work) but have not found anything yet?

Is Allewell the correct spelling of the name?

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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyThu Nov 13, 2014 10:02 am

Hi Graves
Yes it is, born in I think Sibsey Lincolnshire. If as I believe he fought in the Boer war he would Im sure have been awarded the QSA. He comes from a long line of Georges, his father, grandfather and indeed his eldest son were all called George, other children were Fred and Dorothy.

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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyThu Nov 13, 2014 11:25 am

Hi Springbok9

I have found a Allewell Family from Lincolnshire.

Father (George) Born 1842
Son (George) Born 1870

There are not many Allewell's in Lincolnshire, so could this be the right family.

I will have a better look when I return home.
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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 1:46 pm

Hi Frank

Here's the QSA entitlement for Nesbitt's Horse. Looks like WSM Rifles and Marshall's Horse are noted in remarks column.
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Did you get any more from 1879 Graves, as iv'e got some Lincolnshire stuff but don't want to duplicate?

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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 2:24 pm

Hi Steve
Not as yet but knowing Graves he will be putting in the effort. Let me have what you've found anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 5:55 pm

Frank

Will send you a PM.

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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 6:02 pm

QUEEN’S SOUTH AFRICA 1899-1902, 4 clasps, Cape Colony, Paardeberg, Driefontein, Johannesburg (867 Cpl. G. Allewell, Nesbitt’s Horse)
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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 6:34 pm

Hi Springbok9

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From the 1871 Census showing George & George Allewell
This adds up with a George being born in Sibsey.

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From the 1881 Census
Now I have a problem with the information you have.
As you see both George's are still in the UK in 1881, so have not gone out to SA!
We now have another son.

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From the 1891 Census
Both George's are still in the UK
Now we another son and now a daughter.

1901 Census Missing !!!!
Where did they go?

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Now we have 1911 Census
Father George is back but George son is missing.

I have to ask you Springbok9, are we looking at the correct Allewell family and does this information add up with the information you have.

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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 6:36 pm

Hi Steve (rusteze)

If you can add more to this, please do Salute
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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 8:08 pm

Frank/Graves

I can top and tail it a bit. First the 1851 census, which shows that the older George's father was William.
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And the older George's probate record when he died in 1922.
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I asked Frank much the same questions as you Graves - doesn't quite fit with what we know so far - but could be.

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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptySat Nov 15, 2014 11:47 am

Graves/Steve
Yes it is the correct family, but confusing as hell.
Im pretty sure the younger George was in South Africa Late 90,s early 1900's. He served in Cape Town then in the Transvaal. The QSA is his. That would account for him not showing on the 1901 census.
George Senior was running/owned a pub/hostelry in the Nottingham area some time around that period.
There are some strange entries. I do know that a Fred Allewell was born around 1901 with another George slightly after and a Dorothy a couple of years before. But according to the records there was a Fred born in 1888 and that I cant fit in.
Thanks for the effort guys really appreciated

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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptySat Nov 15, 2014 3:34 pm

Hi Frank

In that case, here's a couple more shots. First the Plough Pub at Elloe, where George (the elder) was publican on 1881 census.
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And I'm pretty sure these houses next to the Castle Inn Freiston is where George was Blacksmith/Grocer in the 1861 census.
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PostSubject: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptySat Nov 15, 2014 7:53 pm

Great finds Steve ! agree
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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptySun Nov 16, 2014 12:18 am

"An extract from National Archives Ref WO 126/95 for the Boer War 
service records for selected names starting with A for the NESBITTS HORSE. 

George ALLEWELL
Age: 27, Trade: Farmer, No previous service
Address: Highlands Station
Enlisted: 28 Dec 1899"
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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptySun Nov 16, 2014 1:01 am

http://ramaracardondalton.com/geneology//getperson.php?personID=I340&tree=AllewellTree
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PostSubject: Re: George Allewell   George Allewell EmptySun Nov 16, 2014 6:38 am

Steve, Graves, Littlehand, impi

Thanks very much for contributing to the research.
This all started when I came across my family name while researching in the Cape Town archives, not something I expected having been born in the Lake District.
The family tree has now been firmly established as far as my branch is concerned and George Allewell finally placed as my Grandfathers Brother.
Interesting and a touch poignant to know that a relative was in Cape Town long before me.



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