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Colonel J. F. Caldwell served in the Kafir war in 1877-78, and was present in the operations against the Gaikas including the engagement in the Perie Bush; also served in the Zulu war of 1879 (Medal with Clasp).
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No Caldwell listed in Mac & Shad ! ??
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PostSubject: Re: Colonel J. F. Caldwell    Colonel J. F. Caldwell  EmptyWed Sep 26, 2018 2:35 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Colonel J. F. Caldwell    Colonel J. F. Caldwell  EmptyWed Sep 26, 2018 5:48 pm

The then Capt John Fletcher Caldwell 2/24th came home aboard Troopship Tyne arriving at Portsmouth 11.1.1879 thus missing the conflict with the Zulu. He later commanded 2nd Battalion South Wales Borderers 9.6.1882-9.6.1886.
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PostSubject: Col J.F.Caldwell    Colonel J. F. Caldwell  EmptyThu Sep 27, 2018 6:04 am

Justin Yes that's correct , the initial post from Ray was incorrect , or more to the point the source he used was in error .
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PostSubject: Re: Colonel J. F. Caldwell    Colonel J. F. Caldwell  EmptyThu Sep 27, 2018 12:03 pm

Gary,

In my opinion Ray is using a digital version of a Hart’s Army List, if there were a date included we might be able to draw a conclusion.

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PostSubject: Re: Colonel J. F. Caldwell    Colonel J. F. Caldwell  EmptyFri Sep 28, 2018 10:48 am

The entry appears in the 1887 copy of Hart’s Army List, in his defence Ray has correctly transcribed it as it appears.

The National Library of Scotland provides an excellent online research platform to study various editions of Hart’s.

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"South Africa Medal 1879, with clasp 1877-8 (engraved in upright capitals Captn. J.F. Caldwell, 2-24th Foot). Good Very Fine; and his gilt 1869 pattern shako plate of The 24th Regiment, with applied Sphinx/Egypt at the base, Very Good Condition. Plate 1
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PostSubject: Col J.F.Caldwell    Colonel J. F. Caldwell  EmptyMon Feb 03, 2020 11:58 pm

Hi Pete
If Caldwell arrived in Portsmouth on Jan 11.... he couldn't have been in the Zulu War as your post suggests , the Invasion started on Jan 11 th , Caldwell possibly left even before the Ultimatum was read to the Zulu's on Dec 11th 1878 ! , the trip took a month at least to get back to the UK .
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PostSubject: Re: Colonel J. F. Caldwell    Colonel J. F. Caldwell  EmptyTue Feb 04, 2020 8:39 am

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There is no 'If' about Caldwell's whereabouts - He is shown as arriving at Portsmouth aboard the Tyne on 11 January 1879 - with 1 drummer and 12 rank & file - this is in the Embarkation Ledgers WO25/3510 (page 160) held in National Archives. Also his service record WO76/233 indicates that he did not serve in South Africa at the time of AZW although was entitled to the campaign medal (with clasp 1887-8) for his earlier service in Frontier War 1878. You can download WO76/233 from National Archives - its free!
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PostSubject: Re: Colonel J. F. Caldwell    Colonel J. F. Caldwell  EmptyTue Nov 29, 2022 11:28 am

Hi All
J.F. Caldwell died 17 Dec 1903 and is buried in St Marylebone Cemetery London.
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