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gardner1879
Posts : 3463 Join date : 2021-01-04
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:51 pm | |
| Just had an e-mail from Aulette:- Hi Kate, Apologies for the delay and inconvenience. The parcel was sent from our warehouse to the post office on 10th February 2022 to be sent by international airmail. Please note the response from our postal services. "All items will unfortunately be delayed by up to six weeks due to backlogs and limited flights leaving and entering the country of destination. At the moment there is no scan of your items in the country of destination as yet." Regards, Aulette Ordered on the 1st February, looks like they haven't even got to the UK yet |
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Bill8183
Posts : 170 Join date : 2015-11-08 Age : 56 Location : Sunderland
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:44 pm | |
| In answer to your question Kate, yes it was the Royal Mail. Arrived Thursday 17th when no-one was in obviously, so picked it up on the Friday. No idea why mine arrived so quickly.
Not sure of the costs to companies for using Fed Ex but I ordered a book from Chapter 1 in Johannesburg on the 11th February paid on the 16th sent on the 17th and arrived 24th Postage £13.50 |
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gardner1879
Posts : 3463 Join date : 2021-01-04
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:06 pm | |
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timothylrose
Posts : 110 Join date : 2013-09-07
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:51 pm | |
| The latest communication from my order received this morning: We are sorry for this unexpected delay. The publisher has not provided an updated publication date and there appears to be some issue with the supply of this item in the UK.
Unfortunately, this means we are currently unable to let you know a revised dispatch date or to guarantee that we will be able to source the item. Please reply to let us know if you would like us to cancel your pre-order for you in the light of this information?
Anyone else got any ideas on UK supplies? |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:14 pm | |
| Tim I was told by Aulette that the books were in the Uk, Sorry Mate its all I can add, if it was up to me I would be giving them away for free. Frank |
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WeekendWarrior
Posts : 270 Join date : 2017-07-21 Location : San Diego, CA
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:35 pm | |
| Anyone have info on the most affordable distribution to the US? I suspect the UK distributor? |
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90th
Posts : 10904 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Isandlwana solving the enigma Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:38 pm | |
| Weekend Warrior From what I can ascertain the UK distributor is having a nightmare with distribution , you may as well wait until you get to SA . 90th |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:39 pm | |
| It will be alot cheaper from UK Mike. Post from SA is horrendous. |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:11 pm | |
| Gary Just got the news on Shane Warne's passing, really sorry about that mate, one of the greatest and part of probably the best Aussie team that ever played. Frank [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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90th
Posts : 10904 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Isandlwana solving the enigma Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:05 am | |
| Hi Frank Bloody hard to digest , and a day after Rod Marsh ..... truly UNBELIEVABLE ! 90th |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:30 am | |
| Ive just received this from a forum member. As promised, please find the link below for ordering the book. It is being delivered to our warehouse today so should be available for delivery soon. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:43 pm | |
| Frank Just ordered mine following an e-mailed notification! |
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mel1879
Posts : 5 Join date : 2010-05-07
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:06 pm | |
| Yes, same here. I've just received an e mail notification from Aulette. |
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timothylrose
Posts : 110 Join date : 2013-09-07
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:21 pm | |
| The latest from my order received today: Hello there,
Thank you for your reply.
We'll leave this order open for you and will notify you of dispatch via an automated email.
Our apologies again for the delay. Do let us know if we can be of any further assistance to you. |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:44 am | |
| A rather nice comment received today.
Dear Mr Allewell. I have just finished, ( or should that be poring over repeatedly?) your absolutely intriguing book, of which I received copy number 20. I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed its fresh take on many of the issues that have perplexed me over the years, relating to this battle. As a very amateur military history enthusiast, I have tried to read as widely as possible, but so many works simply trot out the established line even when that line just doesn’t seem to make sense. I will be making another trip up to that neck of the woods as soon as I can, with your book firmly in tow, so as to place matters on the ground. My sincere congratulations to you on your achievement and thanks for challenging the status quo. Do you intend writing any further works along these lines? Thanks for hours of enjoyment and challenge. Very best wishes. |
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:35 am | |
| Well-deserved, I'm sure. Still waiting for mine to arrive! |
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gardner1879
Posts : 3463 Join date : 2021-01-04
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:16 am | |
| For those still waiting here in Blighty for the hardback. Mine arrived yesterday afternoon so, along with Bill's above, they do seem to be trickling through. First impressions are really good and I'm glad I waited for the hardback. There are some beautiful photographs (which just make you want to get back out there), rare maps and I like the colourful lay out. The complete survivors narratives in the back, some of which have not been seen before, will be really useful for research purposes. Well done Frank. I look forward to a quiet evening in the parlour by the fire to give the book the attention it deserves. Kate |
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aussie inkosi
Posts : 428 Join date : 2013-09-16 Age : 59 Location : MELBOURNE
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:20 am | |
| Great news, I am looking forward in getting my one in the mail.
Enjoy Kate
INKY |
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John Young
Posts : 3300 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:43 pm | |
| Like Diana Ross “I’m Still Waiting”…
JY |
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:55 pm | |
| I have been e-mailed that mine will be here on Friday... |
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timothylrose
Posts : 110 Join date : 2013-09-07
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:56 pm | |
| Just received my e mail from the distributor - on its way via Royal Mail today with a tracking number so here's hoping!
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:37 pm | |
| I enquired today and found it was posted similarly ten days ago and still hasn't arrived. Helpfully, if it's not here within 2 days, they'll send out a replacement! |
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timothylrose
Posts : 110 Join date : 2013-09-07
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:57 pm | |
| - Julian Whybra wrote:
- I enquired today and found it was posted similarly ten days ago and still hasn't arrived. Helpfully, if it's not here within 2 days, they'll send out a replacement!
Got to love it lets see what happens then - it's a journey for sure! |
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timothylrose
Posts : 110 Join date : 2013-09-07
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:32 pm | |
| My copy turned up yesterday via a book depository order from e bay - cheaper than the authorised distributor and with free postage - hopefully can do some delving over the weekend -- we get there in the end |
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1879graves
Posts : 3380 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:14 pm | |
| My Copy arrived yesterday as well |
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AlCapone
Posts : 5 Join date : 2019-02-21
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:56 pm | |
| Want to add my name to the long list of those congratulating Frank. Ordered my copy just today so won't be getting it for about two weeks, I fear, but it's definitely something to look forward to with great excitement and anticipation... (Said it was the last copy they had in stock, btw. World of Books) |
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aussie inkosi
Posts : 428 Join date : 2013-09-16 Age : 59 Location : MELBOURNE
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:30 am | |
| Update from INKY
I contacted Aulette to find out where my book is and after much time we found out
That it took 6 week to get to their Wearhouse to the Jo berg airport so it this rate I may get it in the next month or two |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:24 am | |
| Inky its a long way for the bloke with the forked stick to run hey. |
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:17 am | |
| I am pleased to say that my order was delivered this morning (April Fools' Day!!!) It is beautifully produced. I look forward to reading it. |
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aussie inkosi
Posts : 428 Join date : 2013-09-16 Age : 59 Location : MELBOURNE
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:39 am | |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:54 am | |
| Inky I hope the wait was worth it. Look forward to hearing your opinion.
Frank |
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aussie inkosi
Posts : 428 Join date : 2013-09-16 Age : 59 Location : MELBOURNE
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:05 am | |
| Frank
Give me till after Easter and I will give you my thoughts. |
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:20 pm | |
| I began reading Frank's book this evening only to find that the book is damaged inside with some pages 'glued' and crimped together at the spine. Opening it caused pages to tear or be damaged. Pages will eventually fall out. I've decided to send it back and get a replacement. I'll let you know what transpires but do check your own copy especially if you're giving it as a gift and have not inspected it yet. Ho hum! |
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:41 am | |
| Ongoing saga: one of you has e-mailed me to say that my replacement book has arrived at his address (in the USA) with my invoice attached. Oh, what tangled a web we weave... |
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mel1879
Posts : 5 Join date : 2010-05-07
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:35 pm | |
| Haven't received mine yet, Julian, and I know that we both ordered on the same day! Central books informed me over a week ago that it's in the post. I can see that I need to get back onto them and enquire if they know in which country. Lol. |
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:58 am | |
| Following a phone call this morning Central Books will now try to send me a replacement copy at the third attempt. |
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:30 pm | |
| At last, the book has arrived and in one piece! |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:50 am | |
| After all the trials and tribulations I hope it doesn't dissapoint. |
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:46 pm | |
| Frank I'm sure it will not. I'll certainly post a review here. INCREDIBLY, another copy of your book has just been delivered here. so far that's one damaged copy, one gone to the U.S., a copy here yesterday, and today another one. If your first edition has sold out, the reason is that that they are ALL here!!! Julian |
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John Young
Posts : 3300 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:31 am | |
| Julian, You obviously failed to notice that the publication is sponsored by London Buses! JY |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:59 am | |
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gardner1879
Posts : 3463 Join date : 2021-01-04
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:56 am | |
| Looking at the maps and with all the walking you have done over there Frank it makes you the ideal routemaster. At least the book will get a fare review. |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:21 am | |
| I would be quite content to prove: 'NIHIL NOVUM SUB SOLE' wrong. |
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Julian Whybra
Posts : 4088 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:39 pm | |
| I’ve had a brief look at the content of Frank's book – in fact, I’ve skim-read it all, but looked at only some paragraphs in depth that particularly interest me. My initial impression is the layout is excellent – I’m quite jealous in fact. Whoever did that, did an excellent job. The content is very good indeed. I can’t wait to read the whole thing through in depth - the rest of my life is on hold. What I have looked for and found, are justifications, with provenance provided, for any controversial positions taken and where there is still doubt, the nature of the uncertainty was made clear. No-one will be able to accuse Frank of being ahistorical (except those who have little idea of historicity and its importance). I won't reveal any of the content here. That would not be fair. The book is worth buying; I'll leave it at that. There are a large number of typographical spelling errors and typesetting errors - for example, sources have been misplaced (like for Taylor’s letter), have been confused (like Davies’s account), a map caption transposed, and photos evidently excised. Editing and proof-reading are difficult and infuriating things to manage and are not necessarily within an author's control – I KNOW this from my own experience. Frank must feel annoyed by these. These minor criticisms are merely cosmetic and do not distract from the narrative. Neither do they impinge on the work's historical analysis and research which cannot be faulted. It would be brave, foolhardy even, to attempt to do so. So well done to you Frank! |
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Tellgryn
Posts : 14 Join date : 2022-01-07
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:56 pm | |
| Costly, I have a hardback edition of the book coming from South Africa. Looking forward to reading this book. Mainly checking on the position of the rocket battery, so many have it in so many different positions when it was overrun.
I do think this book will be worth the cost. |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:19 pm | |
| Tellgryn have attempted to show the route the RB took and their points of deviation and the area they were attacked. I hope the maps and photos help to solve the mystery for you.
Regards
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Tellgryn
Posts : 14 Join date : 2022-01-07
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:16 pm | |
| Hi Frank, My question is when they dug the battlefield, did they find anything related to the rocket battery? It is a huge area people said the battery was in from one side of hill to the other. Were there any battlefield finds that could help place the Battery? |
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90th
Posts : 10904 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Isandlwana solving the enigma Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:13 am | |
| Tellgryn As far as I'm aware there has never been an Authorised ' Dig ' regarding the rocket battery , as you said there are two places where the record has it being situated and overrun , 1 / The area known as the Notch ...many people nowadays believe this was never the true position , the newer accepted position is in the general area of where Frank has put it . There's only ever been one Official dig at Isandlwana and that was back in 2000 , it was also a Minor ' Dig ' only several small areas from within the camp area , and an area from where the firing line was situated , the other area was where the Artillery came to grief on the Fugitives Trail . 90th |
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Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:45 am | |
| Hi Tellgrn There are a couple of old news paper reports that help with the placing and a number of old maps. A few years ago I was involved in a metal detector search over the plateau and down the area I believe the RB action took place. Its outside the battlefield protected area but stii no digging was done. Four areas of 'pings' were found on the plateau around 250 metres apart and a high concentration in an area slightly to the west of the suspected RB demise area. Two extremely strong signals were recorded along the actual ridge line above the suspect area. Again no digging took place
In the early 1900's unexploded rockets were discovered in the Donga area
“Mr. Parr, however, the owner of the store where we slept gave me a number of cartridge cases and the head of one of Durnford’s rockets. He has another rocket dug out of the bank of a donga near the store, which is still unexploded.” Regards Frank |
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AlCapone
Posts : 5 Join date : 2019-02-21
| Subject: Re: Isandlwana solving the enigma Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:37 am | |
| Frank,
You neglected to mention (here, not in the book) the recipient of the rocket remains. That being one (sir) Rider Haggard. I think you have forever made your name as an AZW historian with the original work you've done on the rocket battery. BTW, in a book filled with subtleties the standout virtue of the book is the quality of your maps. As they say in the Royal Navy, "Bravo Zulu"! |
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