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PostSubject: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyWed Feb 23, 2011 2:21 am

Hi all .
This is the same chap who took part in the zulu war ? . He has also left a diary or letters but they may be in a regimental
museum ? . Happy to be corrected .

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1900-BOER-MAJ-GEN-FITZROY-HART-C-B-5TH-BRIGADE-CMDR-/140506125150?pt=Antiquarian_Books_UK&hash=item20b6d1535e

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PostSubject: Fitroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Apr 28, 2011 5:27 am

Hi Littlehand .
If I'm not mistaken Fitzroy - Hart was present at the opening battle of the zulu war at Nyezane about 8 am on the 22nd January .
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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Apr 28, 2011 6:38 am

Hart commanded the 5th (Irish) Brigade at the Battle of Colenso on 15 December 1899 and mistakes made by him resulted in disaster for the Irish regiments. His failure played a major part in Buller's decision to call off the attack on the Boers. On this occasion Hart fitted the description of a donkey leading lions into battle.

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Captain A F Hart (1844 - 1910), 31st Regiment. Served in Second Ashanti War. Staff Officer to 2nd Regiment NNC with No 1 Column; then Staff Officer with Eshowe Relief Column; next, Brigade Major of the 2nd Brigade, 1st Division; and finally Principal Staff Officer of Clarke’s Column. Present at Nyezane and Gingindhlovu. Promoted Brevet Major.

Date of Birth - 4th May 1844
First Appointment - Ensign - 31st Foot - 23rd December 1864
Lieutenant - 31st Foot - 29th May 1867
Captain - 31st Foot - 13th June 1874
Brevet Major - 29th November 1879
Major - East Surrey Regiment (1st Battalion) - 1st July 1881
Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel - 18th November 1882
Special Service, Ashanti Expedition - 12th September 1873 to 27th March 1874
Brigade Major, Aldershot - 25th November 1876 to 31st October 1878
Special Service, South Africa - 1st November 1878 to 17th November 1879 and 27th January 1881 to 9th March 1872
Special Employment, Egypt - 21st July 1882 to 5th November 1882
He passed the Staff College in 1872
Ashanti War - 1873-4 - Defence of Abrakrampa, attack and capture of Adubiassie, battle of Amoaful, attack and capture of Becquah; engagement of Jarbinbah (wounded), ambuscade affairs between Adwabin and river Ordah, battle of Ordahsu and capture of Coomassie. Despatches, London Gazette, 7th February and 7th March 1874. Medal with Clasp.
South African War - 1879-81 - Zulu Campaign - Engagement of Inyezane and action of Ginginhlovo. Despatches, London Gazette, 5th and 11th March and 2nd and 7th May 1879. Medal with Clasp. Brevet of Major. - Transvaal Campaign, 1881; as D. A. A. & Q. M. G. in the Natal Field Force.
Egyptian Expedition - 1882 - As D. A. A. and Q. M. G., Intelligence Branch. Reconnaissance of 5th August, actions at El-Magfar, Tel-el-Mahuta and Kassassin (wounded, horse Wounded), and battle of Tel-el-Kebir. Despatches, London Gazette, 2nd November 1882. Medal with Clasp, and bronze star. Brevet of Lieutenant-Colonel; 4th class Osmanieh.
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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Apr 28, 2011 6:17 pm

90th wrote:
He has also left a diary or letters but they may be in a regimental museum ?

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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Apr 28, 2011 7:36 pm

Hi Brett

This two sons also took part in the Boer War

HART-SYNNOT, ARTHUR HENRY SETON, Captain, was born 19 July 1870, eldest son of Major General Arthur Fitzroy Hart Synnot, CB, CMG, of Ballymoyer, County Armagh, and of May Hart Synnot; was educated at Clifton College; King William's College; the RMC, Sandhurst, and subsequently entered and graduated in the Staff College, Camberley. He was a Fellow of the Royal Geographical Society. He joined the East Surrey Regiment 8 October 1890; became Lieutenant 7 June, 1892, and was Adjutant 1 January 1894 to 31 December 1897. He served in the Relief of Chitral, 1895, in command of the Maxim Gun Section (Medal and clasp); in the Tirah Expedition, 1897-98, as ADC to GOC, 1st Brigade (two clasps). In the South African War, 1899-1902, he served first with the Mounted Infantry and subsequently as DAAG. He was twice wounded, mentioned in Despatches, received the Queen's Medal with seven clasps, the King's Medal with two clasps, and was created a Companion of the Distinguished Service Order [London Gazette, 19 April 1900]: "Arthur Henry Seton Hart-Synnot, Captain, East Surrey Regiment. In recognition of services during the operations in South Africa". The Insignia were sent to the Commander-in-Chief, South Africa, and presented by the Duke of Cornwall and York 14 August 1901. He was promoted Captain 21 June 1899. Captain Hart-Synnot was appointed British Military Attache with the Japanese Army in Manchuria, 1904-5, and received from HM the Mikado the 4th Class of the Order of the Sacred Treasure and the Japanese War Medal. He was GSO, 2nd Grade, South China, 20 March 1907 to 9 June 1911, and was promoted Major 17 March 1908. and appointed to the General Staff, India, October 1913. He was transferred to the General Staff in France in October 1916; on the General Staff, 17th Division, and on the General Staff, 40th Division; commanded the 1/4th East Lancashire Regiment.; commanded the 1st Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers, including the period of the Third Battle of Ypres (Passchendaele); commanded temporarily the 86th Brigade and the 25th Brigade; was given the Brevet of Lieutenant Colonel 1 January 1917, and promoted substantive Lieutenant Colonel 16 January 1917, and Brigadier General April 1917. He commanded the 6th Brigade. He was dangerously wounded May 1918 (loss of both legs), was awarded a bar to the Distinguished Service Order and was made a Chevalier of the Legion of Honour. He received the French Croix de Guerre, and was created a CMG in 1919. General Hart-Synnot married, in July 1919, Violette, only daughter of J E Drower, CBE.
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HART-SYNNOT, RONALD VICTOR ORES, Lieutenant, was born 24 July 1876, son of Major General Fitzroy Hart-Synnot, CB, CMG. He was educated at King William's College, Sandhurst, and at the South-Eastern Agricultural College, Wye, and took the degree BSc at London University. He joined his regiment, the East Surreys, in 1899. He served in South Africa, 1899 to 1902, taking part in the Battle of Colenso, and, as ADC to Major General Fitroy Hart, in the actions of Spion Kop, Potgieter's Drift, Pieter's Hill, and the Relief of Ladysmith, for which he twice received mention in Despatches. He also saw fighting in the Orange River and Cape Colonies, 1901-2, and had the Queen's Medal with five clasps, and the King's Medal with two clasps, and was created a Companion of the Distinguished Service Order [London Gazette, 27 September 1901]: "Ronald Victor Okes Hart, Lieutenant, East Surrey Regiment. In recognition of services during the operations in South Africa". He was invested by the King 18 December 1902. He resigned his commission in 1904, and in 1909 was appointed Private Secretary to Sir Horace Plunkett, and Dean in the Faculty of Agriculture and Horticulture at University College, Reading. In 1915 he became Temporary Captain and ADC to HE General Sir Reginald Hart in Guernsey, and in February of the year following appointed lo the Headquarters Staff, Southern Command, Salisbury. In 1918 he was promoted Temporary Major, also becoming Deputy Assistant Director of Labour. Major Hart-Synnot married, in 1912, Violet, eldest daughter of the Reverend Lord Theobald Butler and Annabella Beydon, daughter of Reverend Cosmo B Gordon, DD, and they had one son.
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PostSubject: Hart-Synott   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Apr 28, 2011 11:30 pm

Hi All,
Just a couple fo other details on this chap. Born in Ireland he was the son of Lieutenant-General H.G.Hart, the founder of "Hart's Army Lists". Also he was originally known by the surname of Hart until his marriage to a Miss Synott in 1868 when he appears to have incorporated her name.

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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyFri Apr 29, 2011 6:20 am

1879graves

Many thanks for the detailed information on Hart's sons. It was new to me. I have a particular interest in the Battle of Colenso having spent much of my youth in the area. The fate of the Irish Brigade was a shocking event and was an early indication that at least some of the British Generals in the Boer War had not adapted to an entirely new kind of enemy.

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PS My apologies for straying from the focus of this forum.
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MAJOR-GENERAL A. FITZ-ROY HART.

"The editor of Hart's Army List, is now in command of the Fifth Brigade, operating under Sir Redvers Buller in Natal.

He was born in 1844, and educated successively at Cheltenham, Sandhurst, and at the Staff College. Since then he has had a long and varied experience in all parts of the world, always emerging from action with distinction for courage and skill.

During the Ashanti War of 1873, he received "mention." Serving through the Zulu War, 1879, the Boer War of 1881, and the Egyptian War of 1882, his career was a succession of triumphs. At the battle of Tel-el-Kebir he especially exhibited remarkable resource. He served in India for four years, and afterwards was appointed to the command of the First Brigade at Aldershot.

His brigade has been in the hottest fighting in Natal, and was especially so at Colenso in the fall of the year 1899. On February 20th, 1900, during the final and successful advance of the British on Ladysmith, " Hart's Brigade" successfully drove the Boers from Colenso."


Extract from "British Commanders in the Transvaal War 1899-1900" published by W.D. & H.O. Wills Ltd:
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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Feb 27, 2014 9:27 am

Does anyone have an example of A. Fitzroy Hart's handwriting?

Only I trying to compare it with an unexpected surprise which dropped out of an 1879 Hart's List that arrived this morning.

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PostSubject: Fitzroy - Hart    Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Feb 27, 2014 9:51 am

Hi JY
I'm not home tonight so cant look for you , I do have some signatures but dont think F - H is among them , will have a look tomorrow .
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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Feb 27, 2014 9:54 am

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Cheers
Ive had these in the folder for a long time, I have no idea where I got them so If im treading on toes my humble and abject apologies
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PostSubject: Fitzroy - Hart    Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Feb 27, 2014 10:33 am

Well done Springy , do you have his book ?
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Zulu Hart??????????????????  Very Happy   Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Feb 27, 2014 11:03 am

Springy,

Thanks for that.

Looks I have acquired the front of an envelope addressed by him to his wife in Newton Hamilton, pasted into an 1879 List.

Isn't E-Bay wonderful!

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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Feb 27, 2014 11:16 am

Nice when you get those little Bonanzers. When I bought the CT Atkinson it was second hand and owned by an ex Colonel of the regiment. Inside he had used cuttings from newspapers to mark pages. Everything from George Mabin to Sailor Malan. spent more time searching than reading.
Wonderful stuff.
I will be in touch tomorrow when I have picked up the photos.

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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Feb 27, 2014 4:05 pm

And here he is, every bit the Major General!.

https://s1297.photobucket.com/user/xhosa2000/library/?sort=6&page=1
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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyThu Feb 27, 2014 11:45 pm

xhosa2000 wrote:
And here he is, every bit the Major General!.

https://s1297.photobucket.com/user/xhosa2000/library/?sort=6&page=1

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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyFri Feb 28, 2014 12:05 am

Yes! you are doomed forever to scratch your head!  Salute 

The same image is 8 posts back from yours.....you said..

Think, image quality! most times when one acquires
an image off the net, its very un usual to get the
resolution high, and some of the images offered have
been, indifferent, i have my own standard, which is to
offer the highest resolution available to reproduce!
which applies in this case..that was my only consider-
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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyFri Feb 28, 2014 12:32 am

So! i went back to the beginning. a single page
going for 18 and a half squid, i only paid £20.00
for the whole book many years ago. Celebrities
of the British Army. George Newnes 1900.. the
finest collection of mustaches ever assembled!.
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PostSubject: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyFri Feb 28, 2014 12:51 am

Hi JY.
I checked my signatures unfortunately no Fitzroy - Hart . Sorry .
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I've been chasing this photograph for a long while and finally acquired it today.

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Lieutenant Arthur Fitzroy Hart, 31st Regt., 1873.
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Hart is wearing his Asante War uniform.

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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyFri Feb 20, 2015 8:40 pm

Well done John. agree Nice photo.
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PostSubject: Re: Fitzroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptyFri Feb 20, 2015 8:45 pm

Great photo John.

Well done

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PostSubject: Fitroy - Hart   Fitzroy - Hart EmptySat Feb 21, 2015 12:29 am

Great pic JY Shocked I have one or two pics of him from memory , possibly postcards ? . I also enjoyed his book for what it's worth Very Happy You need to study mo
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