WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu quote: Reverend Otto Witt: One thousand British soldiers have been massacred. While I stood here talking peace, a war has started.
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Lance Corporal Robert Eaton NMP
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyToday at 9:35 am by Frank Allewell

» William De Passey, 17th Lancers.1879.
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyMon Sep 21, 2020 1:20 pm by Frank Allewell

» List of identified bodies at Isandlwana
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyThu Sep 17, 2020 5:30 am by John Young

» Defenders of Rorkes Drift
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Sep 16, 2020 6:47 pm by Digger

» Colour Sgt Anthony Clark Booth, VC.
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyTue Sep 15, 2020 6:47 pm by ADMIN

» Cpl John Lyons
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 7:49 pm by Bill8183

» A Case of Mistaken Identity?
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 11:29 am by John Young

» What happened next
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 10:51 am by Springbok

» Surgeon Espine Charles Ward
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Sep 09, 2020 9:38 am by John Young

» 2nd Lieutenant William Lancelot James, 2nd/4th Regiment.
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyMon Sep 07, 2020 2:41 pm by ADMIN

» Explaining Amabutho in one word??
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyMon Sep 07, 2020 11:49 am by SRB1965

» Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyThu Sep 03, 2020 4:05 pm by Frank Allewell

» Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Artillery
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Sep 02, 2020 8:01 pm by Catiline63

» Colonel William,Egerton Saunders, C.B
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:46 pm by ADMIN

» Lieutenant-Colonel David Campbell Williamson.
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:32 pm by ADMIN

» Brigade Surgeon E. J. Boulton
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:02 pm by ADMIN

» Joseph Walter O’Malley Martin. Assistant Surgeon
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:52 pm by ADMIN

» Quarter-Master William London
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:32 pm by ADMIN

» Surgeon Major Henry Lamb
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:19 pm by ADMIN

» Lieutenant Robert Thomas Graves Lowry
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 9:13 pm by ADMIN

» Sgt. John Philip Archbell NNC
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 8:43 pm by ADMIN

» Tpr. John Ross Natal Carbineer
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 8:27 pm by ADMIN

» Non-Combat Casualties in Colonial and Native Units
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 11:52 am by Julian Whybra

» Victorian HMS SHAH South Africa Zulu Wars Medal William Morrison Royal Navy
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyFri Aug 28, 2020 5:50 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» South African 1879 Zulu War medal to Corp R Starkey 57th Regiment of Foot
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyFri Aug 28, 2020 3:50 pm by 1879graves

» 2/4th Foot at Hlobane/Kambula
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyFri Aug 28, 2020 4:12 am by 90th

» England's Sons 9th edition
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Aug 26, 2020 6:20 pm by Herbie

» Strange tales from Isandlwana
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 23, 2020 4:25 pm by SRB1965

» Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySat Aug 22, 2020 5:48 pm by Visitor

» Militaria Sale
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyTue Aug 18, 2020 5:59 pm by Frank Allewell

» Men of the 24th Regiment of Foot - Secunderabad, India 1873
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyTue Aug 18, 2020 12:48 am by 90th

» Malicious website
 Cases of  massacres... EmptySun Aug 16, 2020 9:06 pm by ADMIN

» Rorkes drift Hotel
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyThu Aug 13, 2020 7:00 pm by robert taylor

» Durnford's medical officer
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyThu Aug 06, 2020 11:36 am by SRB1965

» Charles Sparks - any information available?
 Cases of  massacres... EmptyThu Aug 06, 2020 9:23 am by Julian Whybra

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Black as Hell, Thick as Grass
Top posters
90th
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
littlehand
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
ADMIN
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
1879graves
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
rusteze
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
John
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
John Young
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
De Passey
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
ADMIN
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
1879graves
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
Kenny
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
90th
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
SRB1965
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
Digger
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
Catiline63
 Cases of  massacres... Bar_left Cases of  massacres... Bar Cases of  massacres... Bar_right 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Adding to the Library
Isandlwana, Last Stands
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Keywords
spalding henry drift Woolfryes Durnford melvill william Natal taylor payne Prince 24th gardner Mounted harford john Franklin smith Isandlwana George Russell martini horse Police james zulu

 

  Cases of massacres...

Go down 
AuthorMessage
Guest
Guest



 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyTue Aug 07, 2012 2:54 pm

Hi all

Anyone know of cases of massacres of Zulu civilians (women, children and elderly) in this war?

Cheers

Pascal
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10131
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 64
Location : Melbourne, Australia

 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Cases Of Massacres     Cases of  massacres... EmptyTue Aug 07, 2012 4:00 pm

Hi Pascal.
Dont think there were any !.
Cheers 90th. Salute
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyTue Aug 07, 2012 4:06 pm

Hi Gary

There's always!

Cheers

Pascal
Back to top Go down
Mr Greaves

Mr Greaves

Posts : 748
Join date : 2009-10-18

 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyTue Aug 07, 2012 9:24 pm

Only what was carried out my the Zulu's themselves.
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10131
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 64
Location : Melbourne, Australia

 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Cases Of Massacres    Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Aug 08, 2012 1:17 am

Hi Pascal .
There are no accounts or files saying Massacres took place , there are instances of the British burning Kraal's but thats what you do in war , also the British Government werent happy with the burning of these Kraals and did indeed forbid it , but as the communications took forever, these still went on . So to answer your question there were no massacres of the civilian population .
Cheers 90th. Salute
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Aug 08, 2012 7:37 am

Hi Gary

But in the opinion of Mr Greave, during the war, the Zulu army massacre Zulu civilians ? Where and when ?

Cheers

Pascal
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10131
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 64
Location : Melbourne, Australia

 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Cases of Massacres ?    Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Aug 08, 2012 8:07 am

Hi Pascal .
Who is Mr. Greave the Author or Forum member ? . I've never of it happening in all the books on the zulu war that I've read !.
Cheers 90th. You need to study mo
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Aug 08, 2012 9:33 am

Yes, Mr Greaves of the forum, see what he wrote above ...
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10131
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 64
Location : Melbourne, Australia

 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Cases of Massacres    Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Aug 08, 2012 9:37 am

Pascal .
I think you'll find he means the Zulu's against the British troops ! , at least I think that's what he means ? . Salute
Cheers 90th. Salute
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Aug 08, 2012 11:33 am

And for British troops against Zulu civillians ?
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10131
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 64
Location : Melbourne, Australia

 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Cases of Massacres     Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Aug 08, 2012 1:55 pm

Pascal .
Read my posts ! , there is no evidence that it happened .
90th. Shocked
Back to top Go down
24th

24th

Posts : 1851
Join date : 2009-03-25

 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Aug 08, 2012 5:10 pm

Pascal. This did not happen. I recall reading I think it was after the battle at Kambula, some wounded Zulus were treated by British doctors. Compassion we calls it.
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyWed Aug 08, 2012 6:28 pm

Ah! The British are really nice too, I thought that in a war of this kind there, cruelty was automatic, see the colonial wars of other European nations ...

Cheers

Pascal
Back to top Go down
Norman Boxall



Posts : 2
Join date : 2012-07-06
Location : Chelmsford

 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyThu Aug 09, 2012 1:06 pm

Mr Greaves should reveal his source it is important to back up statements made. Question
Back to top Go down
garywilson1

garywilson1

Posts : 374
Join date : 2009-01-22
Age : 58
Location : Timisoara , Romania

 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyThu Aug 09, 2012 1:16 pm

Surely we can safely assume there were alot of wounded soldiers in the early stages of Ishandlwana ; as none of these survived or were spared then they were massacred .
Back to top Go down
barry

barry

Posts : 921
Join date : 2011-10-21
Location : Algoa Bay

 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Zulu massacres    Cases of  massacres... EmptyThu Aug 09, 2012 4:06 pm

Hi All,
One of the reasons Ceteswayo did not have the support of the whole nation in his war with the British was because many minor Zulu clans had been very badly treated by Cetesawyo in the past when he had dealt ruthlessly with them in his bloody way (this did not involve a smack on the the knuckles ) when they dissented. They were absolutely terrified of his cruelty which involoved "eliminating" all opposition. Thus , the Christian Amakolwas ( Jabez Molife) and others were fighting on the British side to eliminate Ceteswayo and his cruelty, which had no respect for human life at all.

regards

barry
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... EmptyThu Aug 09, 2012 4:52 pm

Hi Barry, since the time ...

It is true that the Zulus are not funny them in their civil wars, but it's not shocking because it was them, that is not the subject of my original post ...

I was just wondering if the British army had massacred Zulu civilians, as loved as do the army of the united states at the same time, facing the Indian ...

Cheers

Pascal
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




 Cases of  massacres... Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cases of massacres...    Cases of  massacres... Empty

Back to top Go down
 
Cases of massacres...
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: