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Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867
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Subject: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:51 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] What is interesting here is it spans two disasters for the 24th Chillianwallah and Isandlwana, there are certainly men who fought in the Sikh War in the photograph as well as men who fought in the Anglo-Zulu War. Photo supplied by a well known Zulu War Author and Historian.
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:50 pm
Could the names below, be any of those in the above photo.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Officers of the 2nd Battalion, 24th Regiment in 1872. Seated second from left in the second row (6) is Henry Pulleine who commanded the 1st/24th at Isandlwana.
1) Lieutenant C.D'A. Pope 2) Captain W.B. Logan 3) Lieutenant W. Penn Symons 4) Lieutenant F.R.B. Liebenrood 5) Lieutenant C.W. Walker 6) Major H.B. Pulleine 7) Lieutenant Colonel T. Ross 8) Lieutenant J.J. Harvey 9) Captain H.B. Church 10) Lieutenant D.D. Pryce 11) Lieutenant H.M. Williams 12) Major F.C. D'E Barclay 13) Captain W.R.B. Chamberlin 14) Lieutenant J.H. Banks 15) Lieutenant G. Stanhope Banister 16) Lieutenant T.C. Dempster 17) Lieutenant C Erskine 18) Lieutenant J. Hoskyns 19) Lieutenant F.T. Halliday 20) ??? 21) Lieutenant T. Rainforth 22) Major W.J.M. Crawford 23) Lieutenant C.S.L. Wilkinson 24) Captain E.H.B. Sawbridge 25) Quarter Master J. Hawkins 26) ??? 27) Paymaster A.S.G. Jauncey 28) Lieutenant R. Younghusband 29) Surgeon W.F.G. Gullen 30) Assistant Surgeon V. Mac Sweney MD. 31) Lieutenant W. Sugden
tasker224
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:31 pm
What a shabby bunch they look! Wouldn't want to pick a fight with any of them though.
The fellow with the pipe in the top photo looks a bit like Ross in the lower picture?
littlehand
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:55 pm
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:58 pm
So far we think we have
9) Pulleine 10) Degacher 17) Porteous 18) Lieutenant Colonel T. Ross
Drummer Boy 14
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:09 pm
9 Pulleine
Cheers
24th
Posts : 1862 Join date : 2009-03-25
Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:34 pm
DB. Would be more help if you could put names to faces rather than icons.
90th
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:50 am
Hi All . I think 15 is possibly Pulleine !! . I think we'll never know with 100 % accuracy . Unfortunately . cheers 90th.
kwajimu1879
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:36 am
90th,
It can't be Pulleine as he was serving in the 2nd/24th at the time, he didn't join the 1st/24th until 1871.
The above photograph dates from late 1866/early 1867 the giveaway is the double breasted frock coat worn by the officer in the centre, which was replaced by the patrol jacket in late 1867. Admittedly overseas stations might been a little slower in taking the patrol jacket into use.
According to what has been written in another place: 1 is Glyn; 7 is Brander; 11 is Porteous; 12 is Dunbar; 15 is White & 16 is Harrisson.
Both the "Hitchcock" (Degacher) brothers should be in the group, 10 might be the younger "Hitchcock".
13 looks like a young Fred Carrington to me.
LH,
You can discount Ross as he was in India, the 1st/24th was commanded by Colonel E. Wodehouse, there's a photo of him as an old man in Atkinson's history of the S.W.B.'s.
'Jim
sas1
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:05 am
15) Younghusband
90th
Posts : 10473 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 66 Location : Melbourne, Australia
Subject: Officers of the 1 / 24th Regt Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:02 pm
Hi Kwajimu1879. Thanks for pointing that out . Cheers 90th.
tasker224
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:40 pm
Thanks KwaJinu. I have trouble spotting myself in group photos, hopeless at it. Interesting info about the 2 Degachers probably being in the early photo. It would be useful if you/someone could list all the possible names of men that may in both pictures.
kwajimu1879
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:39 pm
Tasker,
This from "Records of the 24th Regiment" those officers who arrived on Malta in October 1866:
Colonel E.Wodehouse Majors R.T. Glyn & R.H. Travers Captains H. J. Hitchcock, W.J.M. Crawford, J. Foot, W.M. Dunbar, C.F. Lloyd & W.A.H. Plasket Lieutenants J.M.G. Tongue, J.C. Thomas, W.M. Brander, H.A. Harrison(sic), W. Hitchcock, H.R. Farquhar, F. Hibbert, G.A. Lee & E. Lee Ensigns R. Upcher, F. Carrington, H.B. Moffat, R.R. Corcor, T. Melvill, L.H.Bennett, J.G. Syms, F.P. Porteous & C.C. Allen Paymaster F.F. White Lt & Adjutant J.F. Caldwell Quartermaster W. Charters Surgeon J. Coates & Asst. Surgeon G.F. Duffey.
SAS1,
R. Younghusband was in the 2nd/24th until 1876 when he transferred 1st/24th so it can't be him.
'Jim
tasker224
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:36 pm
Thanks Kwajimu ; so shouldn't Teignmouth Melville be one of those in the 1872 photo?
kwajimu1879
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Subject: Re: Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867 Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:17 pm
Tasker,
The 1872 photo above is of 2nd/24th and was taken in India.
Melvill served in the 1st/24th and in 1872 was serving on Gibraltar.
'Jim
Officers of the 1st/24th Regt. possibly taken on Malta 1867