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Guest Guest
 | Subject: The book of Toby Giese Thu 27 Jun 2013 - 15:26 | |
| Hi all
It seems he does not have to rely on the book of Toby Giese - there is much speculation, lies, unsubstantiated and wild things. This is a épouvantable book .It's true ?
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Thu 27 Jun 2013 - 15:59 | |
| A poor re-hash of Morris ? |
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90th

Posts : 10186 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 64 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: The book of Toby Giese Thu 27 Jun 2013 - 17:39 | |
| Hi Rascal . I dont have it as I think it received unfavourable reviews , but I may be wrong . 90th. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Thu 27 Jun 2013 - 17:52 | |
| Yes Marsupial ,after god it's a poor re-hash of Morris ! |
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kwajimu1879

Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Thu 27 Jun 2013 - 19:00 | |
| Pascal,
'The Men of the 24th' leaves a great deal to be desired.
That's being polite.
'Jimu |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Fri 28 Jun 2013 - 6:14 | |
| Yeah, now I know, but it's good to learn before ,no ?  |
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90th

Posts : 10186 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 64 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: The book of Toby Geise Fri 28 Jun 2013 - 8:52 | |
| Rascal I think it may be more prudent to buy other books on the war . I dont think you can go past Norman Holme's ' The Noble 24th ' . It's always on sale on Ebay uk for the bargain basement price of 12.50 GBP'S. An absolute bargain . 90th. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Fri 28 Jun 2013 - 9:11 | |
| Now you see my friend, the genre of things that interested me most in this war, there is therefore no one who deals with technical aspects and sub-tactics of this war? With many statistics showing the actual thing? |
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90th

Posts : 10186 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 64 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: The Book Of Toby Geise Fri 28 Jun 2013 - 10:01 | |
| Hi Rascal . Unfortunately it seems not . 90th |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Fri 28 Jun 2013 - 10:04 | |
| Given the mass of books on this war, this is not normal !!! |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Mon 28 Oct 2013 - 12:46 | |
| This is a épouvantable book .It's true ?
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ymob

Posts : 2268 Join date : 2010-10-22 Location : France
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Mon 28 Oct 2013 - 13:40 | |
| - Pascal MAHE wrote:
- This is a épouvantable book .It's true ?
Bonjour Pascal, For me, it's a very "poor" book, only a few photos are interesting (never seen in other books)... Cordialement Frédéric |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Mon 28 Oct 2013 - 13:59 | |
| Hello Frederic
Yes it seems like many other books about this war, must have time to spare to read this book, it's troubleshooting, with the conflicts which have'm writing a lot ...
There is more books on war, the more they are a bad, when you see what writings Mr. David Jackson and Mr. Julian Whybra, what difference with the rest ...
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Pascal |
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ymob

Posts : 2268 Join date : 2010-10-22 Location : France
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Mon 28 Oct 2013 - 21:37 | |
| - Pascal MAHE wrote:
- Hello Frederic
Yes it seems like many other books about this war, must have time to spare to read this book, it's troubleshooting, with the conflicts which have'm writing a lot ...
There is more books on war, the more they are a bad, when you see what writings Mr. David Jackson and Mr. Julian Whybra, what difference with the rest ...
Cheers
Pascal Bonsoir Pascal, Others authors are also interesting: For example: - zulu perspective: John Laband... -NNC subject: Paul Thompson and Keith Smith (thesis)... -Rorke's Drift subject: Lee Stevenson... I enjoy the work of Ian Knight (not the osprey books). As you, the Best for me is Julian WHYBRA (a very meticulous researcher and historian). I learn every day on this forum with him. But i have a deep deception with him: he had not written a book on the battle of Isandhlwana. It's a crime!!!! Regard Frédéric |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Tue 29 Oct 2013 - 6:44 | |
| Bonjour Frederic
This will be one day, but it is seen as meticulous, it will 10 years, all ways impossible to do better than Mr David Jackson on isandhwana for now...
Cheers
Pascal |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 7669 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 73 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Tue 29 Oct 2013 - 7:58 | |
| Frederic 'Select Documents a Zulu war source book' by Keith Smith is technically probably the most important book you will ever own. Very difficult to get hold of but if you do it will sit next to you all the time and become the first book you turn to.
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ymob

Posts : 2268 Join date : 2010-10-22 Location : France
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Tue 29 Oct 2013 - 9:03 | |
| - springbok9 wrote:
- Frederic
'Select Documents a Zulu war source book' by Keith Smith is technically probably the most important book you will ever own. Very difficult to get hold of but if you do it will sit next to you all the time and become the first book you turn to.
Cheers Bonjour Springbok, Thanks for this precious information. I know this book, but I don't have a copy. It is not the "same" book of Harold E. Raugh ("anglo-zulu war 1879: a selected bibliography")? On the same subject i have found on the web an useful ("free") link: "The AZW, a source guide and reference bibliography" by the author and member of the Rorke's Drift forum Chris Gosling (it's a chronological bibliography of the zulu war between 1878 and 2009 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Cheers Frédéric I.E: Congretulation for your "last work". But i have actually a problem: as Martin Cooper, i don't have I phone and I pad... Perhaps, i will purchase a tablet ("android") / I enjoy "your comments" on this forum. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Tue 29 Oct 2013 - 9:18 | |
| Frederic We must think of anyone who starts to take an interest in the Zulu war of 1879, I advised him only the books of Mr David Jackson and Mr Julian Whybra ... So it goes right to the point without wasting time and money ,the mass of books without interest writings of some wars is amazing,this is the case for the Zulu War ...... Cheers Pascal |
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Frank Allewell

Posts : 7669 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 73 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Tue 29 Oct 2013 - 10:09 | |
| Frederic I know Chris Gossling's site. Very informative in terms of what museums etc, Keith Smiths book is vastly different. It doesn't list the sources, it gives them in fine detail. Statements, testimony etc. If you can get it then do so you will not be disappointed, I searched for three years to get a copy.
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90th

Posts : 10186 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 64 Location : Melbourne, Australia
 | Subject: Book of Toby Giese Tue 29 Oct 2013 - 10:32 | |
| Hi Ymob I sent you a pm . 90th |
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ymob

Posts : 2268 Join date : 2010-10-22 Location : France
 | Subject: Re: The book of Toby Giese Tue 29 Oct 2013 - 11:56 | |
| - springbok9 wrote:
- Frederic
I know Chris Gossling's site. Very informative in terms of what museums etc, Keith Smiths book is vastly different. It doesn't list the sources, it gives them in fine detail. Statements, testimony etc. If you can get it then do so you will not be disappointed, I searched for three years to get a copy.
Cheers Bonjour 90th and Springbok, Many thanks for the information. Bien à vous. Frédéric |
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