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ORIGINAL OIL PAINTING OF GENERAL DORIEN -SMITH 1900's.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyWed Mar 26, 2014 2:11 am

any idea of the year? nicely
hand tinted. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyWed Mar 26, 2014 2:45 am

xhosa2000 wrote:
any idea of the year? nicely
hand tinted.          cheers

It says 1902 on the back but I'm not exactly sure that's what it denoted.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyWed Mar 26, 2014 5:03 am

just seems unusual, i'm very familiar with
his face, that's a new one to me!cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyWed Mar 26, 2014 6:35 am

xhosa2000 wrote:
just seems unusual,

Agreed. Very odd...but he would have been in India then so maybe there was some reason for it there? I don't know. Grasping at straws here.
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I didnt think it was Horace when I looked at it !  Salute 
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyWed Mar 26, 2014 9:16 pm

We must remember, this is in his later years. We have only seen images of him in Zulu war years and WW1.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyWed Mar 26, 2014 9:47 pm

maybe its me! but i would say the image
is of a man around 40 years old.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyWed Mar 26, 2014 10:03 pm

xhosa2000 wrote:
maybe its me! but i would say the image
is of a man around 40 years old.

I agree. It doesn't look like any other image of him before or after. It's distinctly odd but maybe he had to shave his head for some reason like lice.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyWed Mar 26, 2014 10:41 pm

This photo was taken in 1921, 9 years before
his death in an RTA in 1929, there is no getting
around that very distinctive lantern jaw!.

https://s1297.photobucket.com/user/xhosa2000/media/SD_zps980ced11.jpg.html?sort=6&o=0
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Les if you don't move the image within photo bucket. It will say on the forum. The link will only be broken, if you change or move the
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 12:45 am

Hiya Dave, i know mate i'm rubbish at that
type of thing..believe i dont know what i'm
doing re photobucket!. if i move any thing
and any body wants me to put it back i
will no probs, thanks for posting it here. Les
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PostSubject: Horace Smith - Dorrien   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 4:10 am

After another look with the benefit of some sleep although its 4.09 am here and I cant sleep ! . I dont think it's our man Horace !
90th  scratch 
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 10:40 am

Greetings 90th and welcome to Africa. Have a ball mate and enjoy your sojourn today with Ken.

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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 12:58 pm

Prince Albert?
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 1:17 pm

any quick google image search, and its
plain..SD was not! bald, even in
old age he retained his silver hair.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 2:26 pm

As a thought. What about his brother?

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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 2:41 pm

Mmm never thought of that!.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 2:54 pm

Littlehand you bugger.  Shocked  Spent hours trying to sort that face out before I figured on what you've done. And it isn't even the 1st !

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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 2:57 pm

again Mmm, he had fourteen siblings, he was the
last of six sons to be born.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 3:18 pm

Les
We 'ave been 'ad.
Look at the portrait very very closely
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 3:43 pm

nah! dont even say, its you! again?.
littlehand..expletive deleted..
i was taking that seriously, dug
through some books, scanned, and
its not even april 1.explain yourself!
you,you,you.........
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Very Happy Salute 
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Grrr!... Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 4:44 pm

Its that Northern sense of humour that does it.

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Err, no Frank, he gave up that right
when he moved to some god forsaken
place called the Midlands? lets examine
the evidence, thats twice he has fished
me, on subjects he knew i would respond
to! and then, there's you! twice!..well
dont call me sherlock, but there is chicanery
afoot. i feel violated.  Wink 
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 5:47 pm

agree 
Really laughing this time.
Forgot to add 90th said he would be phoning this evening, nice to have a chat with him, just hope I can understand the Aussie accent.  Very Happy 
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yeah, thanks you two, that gave me such
a good grin! good banter!. you will be fine
with the 90th, just remember all the end of
his sentences will sound like a question.  Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien.   Is this Horace Smith-Dorrien. EmptyThu Mar 27, 2014 10:34 pm

The original was on EBay, the last copy of the same image i posted, I had cropped of his whiskers.
The seller claims its Smith?

What's annoying is, I can no longer find the painting.

So the question still remains is it Our man?
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