WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Lord Chelmsford Said .Buller is ‘one of the finest soldiers of the century’, so modest and reticent –that it was difficult to say for what individual deed he had got the Victoria Cross as he had been doing acts worthy of it all along the line
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» NNC Officer List
Bringing home the Dead EmptyToday at 2:12 pm by briannorris@sos.co.za

» Questions of Time and Place at Isandlwana
Bringing home the Dead EmptyToday at 12:38 pm by Frank Allewell

» S.SMITH Buffalo Border Guard
Bringing home the Dead EmptyToday at 11:30 am by Julian Whybra

» Question Regarding the Uniforms of the Officers of the 24th at Isandlwana
Bringing home the Dead EmptyToday at 6:06 am by SRB1965

» Malicious malware on this site
Bringing home the Dead EmptyYesterday at 10:26 pm by intombe

» Zulu Victory - Views?
Bringing home the Dead EmptyYesterday at 6:52 pm by WeekendWarrior

» Isandlwana Survivor photo's
Bringing home the Dead EmptyYesterday at 3:56 pm by Julian Whybra

» Anyone got information on this.
Bringing home the Dead EmptyYesterday at 3:55 pm by Julian Whybra

» Captn. H. G. Bowen, 88th Foot
Bringing home the Dead EmptyYesterday at 1:18 pm by gstew88

» The South Africa Medal to HMS Forester - an anomaly?
Bringing home the Dead EmptyWed Jul 01, 2020 7:41 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» Lieut. R. F. Dixon NMR
Bringing home the Dead EmptyWed Jul 01, 2020 5:01 am by 90th

» Next month's DNW medal auction
Bringing home the Dead EmptyTue Jun 30, 2020 6:45 am by 90th

» Zulu war medals on eBay
Bringing home the Dead EmptyMon Jun 29, 2020 5:14 pm by SergioD

» John Basten
Bringing home the Dead EmptySun Jun 28, 2020 1:20 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» Lieutenant Walter Robert Higginson NNC
Bringing home the Dead EmptySun Jun 28, 2020 11:19 am by ciroferrara

» Letter home from Eshowe
Bringing home the Dead EmptyThu Jun 25, 2020 2:24 pm by Blackcat

» Melvill's Revolver Cylinder
Bringing home the Dead EmptyThu Jun 25, 2020 10:05 am by Drummer Boy 14

» Assistant Commissary W. Winspear Commissariat Department, present at Gingindlovu
Bringing home the Dead EmptyMon Jun 22, 2020 12:05 pm by ADMIN

» Orders to laager at Isandhlwana
Bringing home the Dead EmptySun Jun 21, 2020 7:11 pm by SRB1965

» morale and the siege at Eshowe
Bringing home the Dead EmptyFri Jun 19, 2020 9:58 am by Blackcat

» CUNNINGHAM
Bringing home the Dead EmptyFri Jun 19, 2020 8:43 am by Julian Whybra

» ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Bringing home the Dead EmptySat Jun 13, 2020 6:21 am by 90th

» Diamond Fields Horse in Zululand
Bringing home the Dead EmptyFri Jun 12, 2020 3:01 pm by Rory Reynolds

» Crimes back in England
Bringing home the Dead EmptyThu Jun 11, 2020 3:44 pm by Catiline63

» Brevet Major. Henry Spalding of Rorke's Drift and Information for Columns
Bringing home the Dead EmptySat Jun 06, 2020 12:14 pm by Frank Allewell

» Missing Cairns?
Bringing home the Dead EmptySat Jun 06, 2020 4:04 am by WeekendWarrior

» RE: William Jenkins Goodson
Bringing home the Dead EmptyThu Jun 04, 2020 8:09 pm by John Young

» A note on O/6 Battery, Royal Artillery.
Bringing home the Dead EmptySun May 31, 2020 4:09 pm by lydenburg

» Corps of Drums
Bringing home the Dead EmptySun May 31, 2020 10:10 am by John Young

» 2nd Lieutenant Henry Wilson Lovett, 1st/13th
Bringing home the Dead EmptySat May 30, 2020 11:48 am by John Young

» Philip Bowe 2658/7 Gatling Field Battery 10/7 Brigade Major Owens
Bringing home the Dead EmptyFri May 29, 2020 7:28 pm by Doranking

» Lieutenant O'Connell, 60th Rifles. 1880 Isandlwana map.
Bringing home the Dead EmptyTue May 26, 2020 4:32 pm by Frank Allewell

» More From FindaGrave website
Bringing home the Dead EmptyTue May 26, 2020 8:09 am by rai

» Wagons at Isandlwana
Bringing home the Dead EmptyMon May 25, 2020 9:25 am by SirGromit

» 1071 SGT A.H. STILL 12th LANCERS
Bringing home the Dead EmptySun May 24, 2020 8:50 am by Julian Whybra

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Rorke's Drift A Soldier's Story with presenter Major John Thomas
Top posters
90th
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
littlehand
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
ADMIN
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
1879graves
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
rusteze
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
John
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
Julian Whybra
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
WeekendWarrior
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
robgdad
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
SRB1965
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
90th
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
ADMIN
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
BigRIJoe
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
gstew88
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
Petty Officer Tom
Bringing home the Dead Bar_leftBringing home the Dead BarBringing home the Dead Bar_right 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable.2
Durnford was he capable. 3
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Adding to the Library
Isandlwana, Last Stands
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.

 

 Bringing home the Dead

Go down 
AuthorMessage
old historian2

old historian2

Posts : 1096
Join date : 2009-01-14
Location : East London

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead EmptyTue Aug 04, 2009 8:58 pm

The Prince Imperial’s body was returned to England.

Was the Prince's body the only one to be returned to England?

I can appricate that none of the soldiers from Isandlwana would have been sent home due to the mutilation of their bodies.

But surly some bodies must have been sent home, or was it a case of status. (Prince Imperial)

Were there provisions for bringing home our dead soldiers back in 1879?

And just out of interest how did they preserve the body of the Prince Imperial during the long voyage back home.

P.S
(They Put Nelsons body in a barrel of Rum or Brandy) Rumour has it the sailors tapped in the barrel for free drink, not knowing what was in there ????
Back to top Go down
John

John

Posts : 2558
Join date : 2009-04-06
Age : 57
Location : UK

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead EmptyTue Aug 04, 2009 10:02 pm

Old H. I have had alook. But its looks like only the Princes Body was sent home.
Back to top Go down
Chelmsfordthescapegoat

Chelmsfordthescapegoat

Posts : 2583
Join date : 2009-04-24

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead EmptyTue Aug 04, 2009 10:18 pm

Old H. Writes
Quote :
And just out of interest how did they preserve the body of the Prince Imperial during the long voyage back home.

On the 3rd June the embalmed body of the Prince was placed in a zinc coffin and returned to England. His body would have been badly decomposed before starting the journey.
Back to top Go down
littlehand

littlehand

Posts : 7086
Join date : 2009-04-24
Age : 51
Location : Down South.

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead EmptyTue Aug 04, 2009 10:36 pm

Thought you might like to know this.

Badly decomposing bodies, trauma cases, frozen and drowned bodies, and those to be transported for long distances also require special treatment beyond that for the "normal" case. The restoration of bodies and features damaged by accident or disease is commonly called restorative art or demisurgery and all qualified embalmers have some degree of training and practice in it. For such cases, the benefit of embalming is startlingly apparent. In contrast though, many people have unreasonable expectations of what a dead body should look like, due to the unrealistic portrayal of "dead" bodies (usually by live actors) in movies and television shows. Viewers generally have an unrealistic expectation that a body going through decomposition should look as it did before death. Ironically, the work of a skilled embalmer often results in the deceased appearing natural enough that the embalmer appears to have done nothing at all. Normally cosmeticians are very happy when someone can bring in a picture and the decedent's regular makeups, if worn, to help make their loved one to look as they did when alive.

Embalming autopsy cases differs from standard embalming because the nature of the post-mortem examination irrevocably disrupts the circulatory system, due to the removal of the organs and viscera. In these cases, a six-point injection is made through the two illiac or femoral arteries, subclavian or axillary vessels, and common carotids, with the viscera treated separately with cavity fluid or a special embalming powder in a viscera bag. In many morgues in the United States and New Zealand, these necessary vessels are carefully preserved during the autopsy; in countries where embalming is less common, such as Australia and Japan, they are routinely excised.

Long-term preservation requires different techniques, such as using stronger preservative chemicals and multiple injection sites to ensure thorough saturation of body tissues.

Embalming is meant to temporarily preserve the body of a deceased person. Regardless of whether embalming is performed, the type of burial or entombment, and the materials used — such as wood or metal caskets and vaults — the body of the deceased will eventually decompose. Modern embalming is done to delay decomposition so that funeral services may take place or for the purpose of shipping the remains to a distant place for disposition.
Back to top Go down
ADMIN

ADMIN

Posts : 3917
Join date : 2008-11-01
Age : 61
Location : KENT

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead EmptyTue Aug 04, 2009 10:55 pm

Quote :
Lieutenant Edgar Anstey was the first soldier from South Australia to die in battle overseas. His body was found two days after the battle by his brother, Captain Thomas Anstey of the Royal Engineers, not far from the place now known as The Fugitives' Trail. Zulu warriors did not take prisoners in battle, and normally ritually disemboweled their enemies. Anstey's body, however, was intact and clothed.


His body was originally buried under a cairn of stones, near where he had been killed, his remains were later interred in the graveyard at the Church of St John the Baptist in Woking, Guilford, Surrey, England.



Click on his name Lieutenant Edgar Anstey
Back to top Go down
https://www.1879zuluwar.com
sas1

sas1

Posts : 629
Join date : 2009-01-20
Age : 42

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead EmptyWed Aug 05, 2009 4:51 pm

There as to be more than two. Are we talking, being sent home after a recent death. or Months after death.
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10077
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 64
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: bringing home the dead.   Bringing home the Dead EmptyThu Aug 06, 2009 7:20 am

hi sas1.
I am fairly certain that only 2 people that died in action in zululand were returned to england for burial, prince imperial and LT Anstey.
cant find any other instances were it is mentioned, Durnford was buried at isandlwana , then exhumed and reburied in FORT NAPIER
CEMETARY in PIETERMARITZBURG, this may have happened to others , but im not sure.

cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
ADMIN

ADMIN

Posts : 3917
Join date : 2008-11-01
Age : 61
Location : KENT

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead EmptyThu Aug 06, 2009 11:39 pm

"Anstey’s older brother was sent out to Natal later in 1879 to investigate what had happened at Isandlwana and why? He was a noted cartographer. A fellow officer
believed he knew where Edgar had died. As they walked along the trail littered with skeletons of British soldiers, they turned the bodies over with their boots.
In most cases the skeletons were so dry they rattled to the touch. On the banks of the Mazinyana stream there lay approximately 60 bodies, so close in death many were touching. Thomas stared into the parched face of his dear brother Edgar! Edgar’s body was shipped back to England where he was buried in a private ceremony in the St John’s graveyard in Woking, Surrey."

This is one of only two white bodies removed from the field of Isandlwana for burial elsewhere. Intriguing to consider that in 1879 a British officer born and raised in South Australia perished at the hand of the Zulus in Zululand would be returned to England for burial."

The other would have been Durnford as 90th Pointed out. Buried at Fort Napier Cemetery In Pietermaritzburg.
Back to top Go down
https://www.1879zuluwar.com
ADMIN

ADMIN

Posts : 3917
Join date : 2008-11-01
Age : 61
Location : KENT

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead EmptySat Aug 15, 2009 11:01 am

Bodies brought back - as well as the Prince Imperial and Lt. Anstey - Captain the Hon. E. V. Wyatt-Edgell, 17th Lancers was brought back from Ulundi. As well as Durnford being reburied in PMB, Trooper G. T. MacLeroy, Natal Carbineers, also killed Isandlwana, was also reburied in PMB.

Information: Provided by a well Known Zulu Historian.
Back to top Go down
https://www.1879zuluwar.com
rai



Posts : 200
Join date : 2009-10-16

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead EmptySat Oct 17, 2009 6:56 pm

Hi others brought home,all served in the Zulu War - F.V.Northey 3/60th KIA at Ginginhdlovu buried at Epsom, G.R.S.Bowlby 94th died of complications after a Leopard attack buried Cuckfield Sussex,, Guy C Dawney killed by a Buffalo buried Great Bookham Surrey, regards rai KLH
Back to top Go down
John

John

Posts : 2558
Join date : 2009-04-06
Age : 57
Location : UK

Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead EmptySat Oct 17, 2009 9:47 pm

The war of the axe : or, Adventures in South Africa

Bowlby, 94th Regiment, who, shortly before the Transvaal war
broke out, was fatally injured by a " Cape-tiger."

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




Bringing home the Dead Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bringing home the Dead   Bringing home the Dead Empty

Back to top Go down
 
Bringing home the Dead
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: