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PostSubject: Help in identifying photograph by James Lloyd, photographer, Durban, Natal   Help in identifying photograph by James Lloyd, photographer, Durban, Natal EmptyWed Dec 24, 2014 7:19 pm

I would welcome assistance in identifying this cabinet photograph of a military officer (doctor?) by the photographer James Lloyd of Durban, Natal.  Lloyd, as most Zulu War aficionados know, photographed the three well-known images of the battlefield of Isandlwana aftermath.  I know Lloyd was a photographer in Durban, Natal from 1859 to 1910.  I would appreciate any information as to time period, unit, and identity.
Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas.  Isandula
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What a remarkable image, seems criminal if 
he goes unrecognized.. would imagine that
cross belt holds clues. and the frogging seems 
to be quite distinctive.
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Bonjour Isundula,
A recently purchase, it seems to me...
On E-BAY UK in December?
Merry Christmas.
Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Help in identifying photograph by James Lloyd, photographer, Durban, Natal   Help in identifying photograph by James Lloyd, photographer, Durban, Natal EmptyTue Dec 30, 2014 8:30 pm

RB,

Tried to answer this when it was posted.

The officer was photographed post-1881 at the earliest. Rank insignia on his shoulder cords and a peaked forage cap based on the late 1880 pattern.

The cross-belt is that of a rifle regiment, but he is not wearing a British Army Rifles patrol jacket, so I conclude he is a colonial. Given the location of the photograph it is plausible that he is Royal Durban Rifles, or if post-1889 he could be Natal Royal Rifles.

Just my conclusions.

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JB, Really appreciate it! RB
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"James Lloyd, a son of Archbishop W.H.C. Lloyd, was one of the earliest residents of Durban. Born in 1828, he died in 1913 and was laid to rest in West Street cemetery, Durban.
Des Watkins, a prominent Durban architect, the great grandson of Lloyd, was bequeathed the original album in 1938. It remained in his possession until 2002, when Des most generously presented the entire album comprising some 210 photos, to Ron Lock and myself in recognition of our interest in the Anglo Zulu war. We made a decision to renovate the original work and to create seven copies of the original. We presented the original album, via Arthur Konigkramer, Chairman of Amafa, (Heritage Council) to the Amafa Museum at Ulundi. Of the seven copies, the Zulu King and Prince Mangosutho Buthelezi were each presented with a copy. Amafa were presented with three copies and Ron & I retained a copy each. The photos were taken on Lloyd’s trip to Utrecht, Transvaal, returning by way of Rorke’s Drift and Isandlwana, and developed at his West End Studio, Smith Street, Durban."
Information supplied by Peter Quantrill. AZW Historian/Author.
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An album of Zulu War period large format photographs published by Lloyd with his paste down entitled: "Tugela Views and Vicinity."  The album begins with the famous "Utimatum Tree" indaba. (Isandula Collection)
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