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PostSubject: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died   place where cecil d'arcy FLH died EmptyTue Jan 04, 2011 8:53 pm

i have just finished reading cecil d'arcy' biography , and it states that the location of where he died was marked by an iron cross before being stolen, all that remains are apparently the screws that held it to the rock face.
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PostSubject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died   place where cecil d'arcy FLH died EmptyTue Jan 04, 2011 11:09 pm

He died in October 1881, the actual date is not known, but between 8 August & 28 December in the Arnatola Forest.
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those anyone know if the location is still readily known i.e photos
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PostSubject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died   place where cecil d'arcy FLH died EmptyTue Jan 04, 2011 11:29 pm

Where is the Arnatola Forest. Nothing coming up on Google Earth. (Never herad of it) Anyone Know. Or did impi make it up. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died   place where cecil d'arcy FLH died EmptyWed Jan 05, 2011 12:04 am

Where is the Arnatola Forest. Good question. I can't find it either. Been looking for ages. (Anyone know)
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PostSubject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died   place where cecil d'arcy FLH died EmptyWed Jan 05, 2011 5:22 pm

according to his biography its near king williams town... and easily regognisable?
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PostSubject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died   place where cecil d'arcy FLH died EmptyWed Jan 05, 2011 9:17 pm

Not sure if this helps. But there is a refrence to Arnatola here.

On 9 March, five days after his arrival in Kingwilliamstown, and just days after Cunynghame’s departure for England, Thesiger was informed that a huge Ngqika force had eluded the patrols guarding the eastern approaches into the Amatolas, and reached the sanctuary of their former mountain stronghold. With the bulk of the army that Cunynghame had created policing the ravaged homeland of the Galekas, the only troops Thesiger could deploy in the Amatolas, were a few colonial commandos and the 2/24th, which was at that very moment disembarking at the port of East London. He gave the command of the Arnatola sector to Colonel Evelyn Wood, one of the special services officers who had accompanied him to South Africa.

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The Last Frontier War
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PostSubject: Where Cecil D'arcy FLH Died   place where cecil d'arcy FLH died EmptyThu Jan 06, 2011 4:14 am

hi all.
I checked the Index in ' From Midshipman To Field Marshall by Evelyn Wood .
Page 7 . He refers to it as the Amatola Mountains .
Page 9 . Next day I started with my interpreter , Paliso , who had accompanied me from the Amatola district , Kaffraria
Page 27 -28 . '' The incessant work , however , now began to tell on me , and my glands swelled as they had done when I was
overworked in the Amatola Mountains ''
There is also a referance on page 85 which is MISSING from my copy !! :lol!:
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PostSubject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died   place where cecil d'arcy FLH died EmptyThu Jan 06, 2011 12:56 pm

according to the biography his place of death is half a mile off the right hand side of the road from keiskama's hoek to stutterheim, 5-6 miles beyond st.mathews mission.
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As far as I am aware, Cecil D'Arcy (nephew of Robert D'Arcy) became a bit of a recluse and in 1881, he wandered off into the Amatola bush (near Keiskammahoek in the eastern Cape) and he died in a cave. His remains were subsequently recovered and he is buried in King William's Town.
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PostSubject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died   place where cecil d'arcy FLH died EmptyThu Jan 06, 2011 10:06 pm

Hi Ken. I read he fake his own death..

"He is also considered South African, though he probably considered himself British or Anglo-Irish. The Independent newspaper in London reported that the Captain famously faked his own death. "No longer is anyone likely to imitate Captain Henry Cecil Dudgeon D'Arcy of the Frontier Light Horse, who, having been awarded the VC in the Zulu wars, turned to drink. Later, a body wearing his clothes was found in a cave and, this being the pathology of a century ago, presumed to be his. Only many decades later was it learnt that D'Arcy had found a dead man lying in the snow, changed clothes with him, and gone to Natal, and lived out the rest of his life under an assumed name. He was once recognised in 1925, but swore his discoverer to the secret, which the man kept until D'Arcy died. "

But it appears no one knows why?
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I'll dig around in my notes and try to find an answer.
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PostSubject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died   place where cecil d'arcy FLH died EmptyFri Jan 07, 2011 12:57 pm

i personally am inclined that faking his own death is as ian knight put it : to be considered as such stories like lord lucan or the nana sahib
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is as ian knight put it
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i heard there was a picture of cecil darcy in the john young collection from the 1860's taken in kingwilliamstown??
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