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PostSubject: Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot   Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyTue Nov 29, 2011 4:16 pm

Hi all

I know that the facing colours of the 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot were green, but there seems to be many variations of the actual shade of green that was worn. For instance, I have seen pictures of some re-enactors that appear to be wearing differing shades of green. I have seen pictures of the tunics that are made by tailors for sale to collectors or re-enactors, that also appear to differ, and have read different accounts that the colour was any of the following, bottle green, grass green, forest green, medium green, jade green, dark green, even emerald green, does anyone know the real shade of green that the regiments facing colours were?

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PostSubject: Re: Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot   Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyTue Nov 29, 2011 4:20 pm

I would say a medium green. Jade is too light, but that kind of tone.

Dont forget that back then, this would have been liable to fade, as did the tunics.
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PostSubject: Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot   Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyTue Nov 29, 2011 5:34 pm

Hi tasker

Thanks for that, and yes, you are right, the colours would fade over time.

The most mentioned green appears to be grass green, so I suppose that is a sort of medium green,
not too light and not too dark.

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PostSubject: Facing's Colours    Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyWed Nov 30, 2011 1:05 am

Hi Martin .
I went through a couple of books that I have and sorry to say I cant elaborate on anymore than the word ' Green ' .
cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot   Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyWed Nov 30, 2011 1:07 pm

Hi 90th

Thanks for having a look through the books, much appreciated.

In the books that I have it just states green, but I have read some snippets of descriptions online
and there are many greens stated, two or three stating grass green, so I should imagine that
tasker could be right with medium green. The problem is, that on some pictures I have seen, some
greens look very dark, while others look much lighter, and again tasker could be right in saying that
the colours fade, but these variations in colour are on new tunics made for collectors and re-enactors,
so maybe the tailors themselves don't know the real shade of green that was used for the facings.

Thanks again mate.

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PostSubject: Re: Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot   Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyWed Nov 30, 2011 7:13 pm

Grass green, medium green is about right, but not a very helpful description.

All I can suggest now, is that you go to the regimental museum in Brecon. Here you will see tunics and can see the green, the red and and the whole thing for yourself with your own eyes. it is the only way!
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PostSubject: Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot   Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyWed Nov 30, 2011 8:23 pm

Thanks tasker

I did find a few references to grass green, so that is about a medium green I should think.

Yes, I would like to visit the museum, I will have to plan a visit one day.

Thanks again for your help, much appreciated.

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PostSubject: Re: Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot   Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyThu Jun 06, 2013 9:54 pm

scratch I heard the term ' Willow Green' but i cant remember where..sorry L.J.Knight.
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PostSubject: Facing Colours 24th Regt    Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyFri Jun 07, 2013 12:47 am

Welcome xhosa2000 and thanks for your input .
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PostSubject: Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regeiment   Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyFri Jun 07, 2013 1:47 am

Thanks for that xhosa2000, and welcome to the forum.

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90th..Mr M. Cooper. Thank you so much
appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot   Facing colours 24th (2nd Warwickshire) regiment of foot EmptyWed Jul 24, 2013 3:53 pm

1881,On the 1st of July,the name of the
Regiment was changed from the 24th
( 2nd Warwickshire Regiment to the South
Wales Borderers.and the Colour of the Facings
from Willow or Grass Green to White.

It had been the 24th Regiment for 192 years
and for all this time had worn its Cherished
Green Facings.they reverted back in 1905.

Source..A Short History of the South Wales
Borderers 24th Foot and The Monmouthshire
Regiment.Compiled by the Direction of the
regimental Committee.Shocked 
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