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| | Isandhlwana - what really happened? | |
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ciscokid
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-02-04
| Subject: Isandhlwana - what really happened? Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:37 pm | |
| In most pictures of Isandhlwana we see a mad fight with British and Zulu's all mixed together fighting. After reading that the Brits retired "in good order", it also seems that they retreated and then held a position until their ammo ran out - we know this from the groups of bodies found together with dead Zulu's surrounding them.
This leads me to believe that maybe the Brits held out for longer than the initial charge of Zulu's? At Isandhlwana, like Rorkes Drift, Zulu's aren't stupid - they would have seen their buddies being shot and have taken cover whilst moving into position to attack the enemy, maybe at this time the Brits were in their retreated position and taking shots at the Zulu's in target, until their ammon ran out and the Zulu's knew it was safe to close in their attack without risk of being shot.
Comments welcome please. |
| | | Drummer Boy 14
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2011-08-01 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Isandhlwana - what really happened? Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:43 pm | |
| Hi Ciso
Have you read Mike Snooks book on Isandlwana??
Cheers |
| | | ciscokid
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-02-04
| Subject: Re: Isandhlwana - what really happened? Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:01 pm | |
| - Drummer Boy 14 wrote:
- Hi Ciso
Have you read Mike Snooks book on Isandlwana??
Cheers Hi DB Do you mean How Can Men Die Better? cheers |
| | | Drummer Boy 14
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2011-08-01 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Isandhlwana - what really happened? Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:04 pm | |
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| | | ciscokid
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-02-04
| Subject: Re: Isandhlwana - what really happened? Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:12 pm | |
| - Drummer Boy 14 wrote:
- Yep
Cheers I just bought it - put this on hold until I have read it :-) |
| | | Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Isandhlwana - what really happened? Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:03 am | |
| Cisco Enjoy, its a great read but be aware that its a re constructive exersize. Mike has assumed a hell of a lot and puts his own spin on things. He was the Colonel of the regiment, so there is no way at all that he would condemn any member of the regiment. Hence Pullein etc are given clean bills of health while Durnford et al are given the BIG stick. The last section of the battle is however a brilliant reconstruction.
Enjoy |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10882 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Isandlwana - What Really Happened ? Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:13 am | |
| Hi Ciscokid. I agree with Springbok in the fact that he , Snook , has done a wonderful job describing the battle , but beware, it's as he see's it . Exciting reading nevertheless . cheers 90th. |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Isandhlwana - what really happened? Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:15 am | |
| Hi Ciscokid
Ciscokid wrote:
"a mad fight with British and Zulu's all mixed together fighting. After reading That the retired Brits" In Good order ""
Be logical if the British and Zulu's are mixed together, the British could not have been back ... As long as they had ammunition they could contain the Zulu and even folding ... As long as only the right horn not stop them ...
Made of wargame and you will see, it happens the same thing ...
In any case, even when the British were not surrounded , but only followed by the right horn ,when they have no ammunition it's the final blow, as the Zulu are more mobiles.Le 24 th died in detail ...
Cheers
Pascal |
| | | ciscokid
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-02-04
| Subject: Re: Isandhlwana - what really happened? Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:57 am | |
| I just read the final parts of the battle - amazing, really good book - thanks for the heads up.
cheers |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10882 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Isandlwana - What Really Happened ? Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:16 am | |
| Hi Ciscokid . Are you referring to ' How Can Men Die Better ? . There is no doubt he told the story very well , but as we know through the eyes of an officer of the ' old 24th ' which as we know was Himself . Excellently written all the same , no -one can deny Mike that fact . cheers 90th. :study: |
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| Subject: Re: Isandhlwana - what really happened? Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:59 pm | |
| :study: the book of Paton for Isandhlwana... |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Isandhlwana - what really happened? Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:02 pm | |
| :study: the book of Thompson for Durnford at Isandhlwana,
Durnford is "un soldat magnifique ";but a bad stratege... |
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